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felixp



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What to check before +5000km trip?
We are planning a trip to Norway in June and want to make sure our Defender is in great working condition for the +5000km ahead.

A friend on mine is a mechanic and has its own workshop, however they aren't really specialized on 4x4s. They usually do the exact opposite.

Background on the Defender:
TD4, 110, Poptop conversion, Year 2011 with 55.000kms. Had it for 1.5 Years, always started - no problems at all. But its a Defender... anything can happen Very Happy

Maintenance so far:
- Gets new oil & filters every year (was just done in December before its winter sleep so oil will be around 1500km old by then..)
- Prop-shafts greased every now and then.
- Tires 10.000km old
- Clutch 10.000km old
- Brakes 10.000km old
- Shocks 5000km old
- Main battery in good health, less than 1 year old

I will have a close look together with him, however are there things would you check for specifically?

Thanks!!!
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BrickBox



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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
thorough regular checks are always a good idea on a build up to a long trip. It keeps you familiar with what’s what. When were your wheel bearings checked last?

I think the biggest thing you can do for preparation is take plenty of spares and tools. Wheel bearings, grease, oils, coolant, zip ties, tape to seal and coolant/boost hoses etc. Obviously there’s only so much you can take. It’s about being able to temporarily repair something until you can find an ideal place to carry out a full repair or a garage that can.

Edit: Also, because your going to a cold climate. It’s worth changing your oil/coolant to suit the colder temperatures - you may also find your battery will drain quicker if left. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #950422 25th Apr 2022 8:41am
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felixp



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Thanks for your reply! Wheel bearings are a good tip, will have them checked!

I will take some tools and spares with me (oil, filters, etc.).

We will not drive all the way up and stay in warmer climates (10-20 degrees), the long distance also results in having to drive from Munich, Germany all the way up.
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BrickBox



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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
Check your bottle jack etc is in useable condition also. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
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felixp



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Tried and tested Smile


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The Zee



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Indus Silver
But also consider the unusual tools that are also needed to service or perform a repair on your Defender, you may not be able to use them, but the garage it arrives at may not have them….

Propshaft bolts socket (special length & tapered) and spanner (9/16” as I recall)
52mm hub socket
13mm Bihex socket for brake caliper bolts
A good 27mm impact socket and breaker bar to replace the joke that JLR supply for changing a wheel/tyre Shocked

Please check the sizes before, theses are from memory Rolling Eyes

It might be worth swaping the locking wheel nuts out for normal nuts, since rounding/damaging a locking nut or it's dedicated key would be a nightmare. Zaid-M
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Dinnu



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With a tdci, the achilles heel is the adaptor shaft - on some Defenders it last a very long time, but others last 30-40kkm. You never know what you have unless you pull your transfer case out and check.

A lot of threads on this dreaded adaptor shaft on this forum.

I have done a 2000km road trip in 3 days on my then new to me Defender.. I had practically 0.0 knowledge on it, but went without a hiccup.

The best spare part you can take with you is a good insurance, or a fat wallet. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
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BrickBox



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As above - I did the same. Sometimes ignorance is bliss Laughing 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #950449 25th Apr 2022 10:29am
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felixp



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@The Zee Ill have a look into the tools! Thanks!
No special wheel nuts, so all good Smile


Regarding the adaptor shaft.. is this something which is worth having with me? Or would this be way over the top. Dont want to carry a trailer of spares with me but if its something worth packing I'd think about getting one just in case.

I've got good roadside insurance but would much rather drive the Defender home than a rental Smile
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BrickBox



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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
Potentially a bit of an overkill - but if you want to think of every eventuality, then I guess there’s no harm in carrying an upgrade adaptor shaft with you, if yours has never been done. But again, this is going quite far for preparation. The list could be endless if you think of everything.

If your clutch feel is good, quiet and no rattles etc etc etc.. I’d be tempted to just leave it. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #950459 25th Apr 2022 11:26am
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
If you do not know the history of the adaptor shaft, I would say replace with one of the better aftermarket ones before you leave. It gives you peace of mind. And so far it looks like the aftermarket ones last longer than the original, so if yours is still on the original shaft at 55kkm, you have peace of mind until 110kkm at the minimum. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
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Mo Murphy



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Felix,

Check wheel bearings for play, strip, regrease and reset preload

Check brake pads and discs for wear, if they won't last 5k replace them

Check your brake rubber pipes including chassis line to rear axle for cracking

Consider brake fluid change if it is due

Consider clutch fluid change if it is due

Remove and check propshafts (you cannot do it properly still on the vehicle) - any play in the UJs - replace, check sliding joints for seizure, regrease all

Check all tyres for pressure and condition including the spare

Take a good close look at your radiator, intercooler and air con heat exchanger for condition and any apparent leaks. Do likewise with all the coolant and intercooler rubber piping.

Change coolant if due during the trip before you go

Any doubts about the clutch and transfer box coupler ? Change before you go.

Lubricate your steering Ujs

Lubricate the clutch pedal pivot

Plus a full service and change oils if it will become due during the trip before you go.

Plus any Tdci (TD4 was a Freelander engine) specific checks that I have no knowledge about as I have a Tdi.

No need to carry oil, Norway is a first world country and they have oil in shops 😉

HTH
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hank



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I asked a similar question, here are the responses... https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic80452.html

I would fit a new VCV before leaving.

Also from personal experience pack a spare injector Laughing but probably not really required, I was just unlucky > 110 XS Double Cab
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The Zee



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Indus Silver
Mo Murphy wrote:

No need to carry oil, Norway is a first world country and they have oil in shops 😉


Even here in the UK I carry a liter of oil - the 2.2 puma is very pickey when it comes to grade and purity of oil due to the fitted Cat & DPF and contamination issues. Zaid-M
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LandRoverAnorak



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Mo Murphy wrote:
Plus any Tdci (TD4 was a Freelander engine) specific checks that I have no knowledge about as I have a Tdi.

Just a small point but the 2.2 engine in the Defender is not the same as the 2.2 engine in the Freelander. The former is a Ford Duratorq unit whilst the latter is the PSA DW12 (confusingly also developed jointly with Ford and used in some Ford vehicles.) Darren

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