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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10378  
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Amazing isn't it...
Gotta love 'em though hey  |
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19th Oct 2011 10:21am |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 
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Is this a case for Sikaflex 221, or are you pursuing a warranty claim (sounds like warranty from your thread)?
I have bought a tube of Sikaflex, and plan to fill any cracks/gaps before winter (such as the rear cappings). Mine's staying dry just now, but just for belt & braces... Some say it's a good idea to get some Sika under the window seals to prevent any water ingres? Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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19th Oct 2011 10:43am |
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| DefenderOfTheEarth Member Since: 09 Nov 2010 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 1304 
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Mine needs sealing too.
Plus some other bits... Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion. |
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19th Oct 2011 10:48am |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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I'd push for a new hardtop roof. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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19th Oct 2011 10:54am |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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I agree with MOG, the roof is not fit for purpose - how can they sell vehicles like this ?
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19th Oct 2011 11:52am |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5012
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How are the dealers resolving the issue Elliot, they have already had the roof lining out to try and rectify the problem if I remember correctly
 So is this now the first external repair of the seal now split once again? |
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19th Oct 2011 1:23pm |
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| elz Member Since: 23 Nov 2009 Location: Weybridge,Surrey Posts: 23
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The dealer I bought it from was very candid with me and told me to reject the vehicle, so earlier this week I sent the rejection letter. Just waiting to hear back. Cannot fault the dealer at all.
There are other problems with the body work as well, particularly the quality of the spot welding and the welding around the bulkhead. Prior to this puma I had a 2001 TD5, however due to the LEZ, I had to sell it. The TD5 gave me a comparison between the old and the new and I have to say I very disappointed in the build quality and attention to detail. I do have more photos if anybody want s to see. The paint spraying leads a lot to be desired as well. Along the roof guttering there are places where the paint is so thin, I can see the yellow etched primer underneath, the same around the off side rear door hinges. There are places where the body was not wiped down or cleaned before painting and the debris has been over painted. I love Defenders and as with everybody, else except it's foibles, but I don't think this is acceptable. The reason for the post was to warn other puma owners whose vehicle was built around the same time, just to check and make sure they don't have something similar. |
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19th Oct 2011 3:01pm |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5012
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Sorry to hear it, she was a beauty, you kept her in VERY good condition
 Good to hear the dealer (my dealer also!) are behind you
At least we know the seal in the corners up the side and along the front is definitely worth keeping an eye on
Are you going to get another????? |
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19th Oct 2011 3:46pm |
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| PM 1 Member Since: 17 Oct 2010 Location: Northumberland Posts: 16 
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Although I would never condone poor workmanship on any vehicle never mind a £20K Land Rover.... it does make me think that a new Defender built to 21st century standards is long over due! Bring on 2015 eh?!?
I hope you get your problems fixed! PS - The footwell leak came standard on many 300tdi |
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19th Oct 2011 4:40pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3639 
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Incredible better check mine it was built in February DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,
I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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19th Oct 2011 5:36pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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I'd be interested to see your additional photos. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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19th Oct 2011 5:42pm |
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| elz Member Since: 23 Nov 2009 Location: Weybridge,Surrey Posts: 23
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I've got some more pictures. Below is a picture of a spot weld with very rough raised edge on the wing top. There are numerous examples of this over the entire vehicle.
 Click image to enlarge This is the bulkhead. The hot spot in the middle of the picture is a peak, which is going to chip at some point in the future. Click image to enlarge This the paint coming off the rear gutter, again, these are just examples as it is coming off in multiple places. Click image to enlarge This picture is slightly harder to see, as I took it in bright sunlight, but is of the hinge with the paint missing around it. Click image to enlarge My biggest worry is that 3 or 4 years the second hand value of this vehicle is compromised by paint problems. I do however love this car and when it was first suggested, by the Dealer, that I reject it, I said no. Still Love Land Rovers  . |
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20th Oct 2011 8:37pm |
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| pom Member Since: 01 Jun 2010 Location: Worcester Posts: 1343 |
your dealer is right reject it. You don't want the mega headaches down the road.
Pom |
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21st Oct 2011 9:16am |
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