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pjw4233

Member Since: 30 Nov 2009
Location: Lake District & Cheshire
Posts: 273

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey

Defender lives on till 2017

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2011/10...-2017.html

21st Oct 2011 12:28pm

110SEB

Member Since: 29 Jan 2009
Location: Essex, England
Posts: 1444

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

I hope this is true. I'd be curious to drive the new 2.2 in it. Power output is unchanged they say. I wonder how it feels to drive.

21st Oct 2011 12:36pm

DefenderOfTheEarth

Member Since: 09 Nov 2010
Location: Cornwall, UK
Posts: 1304

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

I know it's wrong but 2.2 litres just sounds too small for a Defender!!

2.4 is small enough!

But yes, I'm aware that even 2 litre diesels can pump out over 200bhp in some road cars... Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion.

21st Oct 2011 12:56pm

JSG

Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2412

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

110SEB wrote:
I hope this is true. I'd be curious to drive the new 2.2 in it. Power output is unchanged they say. I wonder how it feels to drive.

With the comments that the power is exactly the same do you think it would seem much different to our 2.4s? John

http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk

2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS

21st Oct 2011 12:58pm

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2414

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

But no 130 pick up anymore

Puma 110" SW

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Earth first. Other planets later

21st Oct 2011 1:42pm

DefenderOfTheEarth

Member Since: 09 Nov 2010
Location: Cornwall, UK
Posts: 1304

JSG wrote:
110SEB wrote:
I hope this is true. I'd be curious to drive the new 2.2 in it. Power output is unchanged they say. I wonder how it feels to drive.

With the comments that the power is exactly the same do you think it would seem much different to our 2.4s?

Nope - it's just the thought of going smaller that's all! A big 2 tonne 110 with a 2.2 just seems a bit wrong...! Same when the T5 Transporters went from 2.5 5 pots to 2.0 4 pots - power actually increased but it still "feels" a bit wrong! Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion.

21st Oct 2011 1:54pm

Slimer

Member Since: 17 Apr 2007
Location: In my own special Happy Place :o)
Posts: 34

MK wrote:
But no 130 pick up anymore

Still available according to the LR website though it's from 'Professional Vehicles' which I assume used to be Special Vehicles

http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/lr/defender...fessional/

Edit: Still says 2.4l so LR website hasn't been updated (I'll shut up...)

21st Oct 2011 2:29pm

scotty38

Member Since: 21 May 2011
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 571

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Aintree Green

Have to say the Keswick 90 looks mighty fine in that picture

21st Oct 2011 2:35pm

110SEB

Member Since: 29 Jan 2009
Location: Essex, England
Posts: 1444

JSG wrote:
110SEB wrote:
I hope this is true. I'd be curious to drive the new 2.2 in it. Power output is unchanged they say. I wonder how it feels to drive.

With the comments that the power is exactly the same do you think it would seem much different to our 2.4s?

Don't be so literal John! It's bound to sound/feel different somehow. Engine tone with every Defender engine is different. Same engine, but different stroke but as said by others it does sound like too weedy an engine in such a vehicle.

21st Oct 2011 6:18pm

110SEB

Member Since: 29 Jan 2009
Location: Essex, England
Posts: 1444

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21st Oct 2011 6:19pm

diesel_jim

Member Since: 13 Oct 2008
Location: hiding
Posts: 6092

DefenderOfTheEarth wrote:

But yes, I'm aware that even 2 litre diesels can pump out over 200bhp in some road cars...

Yeah, at 7500rpm! ideal for off road work....

21st Oct 2011 8:16pm

JSG

Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2412

110SEB wrote:
JSG wrote:
110SEB wrote:
I hope this is true. I'd be curious to drive the new 2.2 in it. Power output is unchanged they say. I wonder how it feels to drive.

With the comments that the power is exactly the same do you think it would seem much different to our 2.4s?

Don't be so literal John! It's bound to sound/feel
different somehow. Engine tone with every Defender engine is different. Same engine, but different stroke but as said by others it does sound like too weedy an engine in such a vehicle.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be literal - just thinking if it would feel much different. Good point about the sound though, hadn't thought of that. John

http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk

2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS

21st Oct 2011 8:34pm

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2414

Korando engine XDi200 delivers 173 HP@4000 rpm and 36 kgm/2000-3000 rpm and I`m sure it`s better than a fordy Puma 110" SW

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Earth first. Other planets later

21st Oct 2011 8:38pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4646

If this is true and the 110/130 will possible go on until 2020 they can hardly call the DC100 a Defender as the "older" Defender will still be in production. My guess is that the DC100 will be introduced as a new standalone model and the boffins at Solihihull will get more time to come up with a "real" replacement for the Defender.
Also regarding the above, I happen to like the sound of the Tdci engine. I think it sounds refined compared to the tdi. It pulls willingly and over long distances it is a joy to use. So long as it does the job the cc does not bother me. Overall the Puma gets the thumbs up from me. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

22nd Oct 2011 9:33am

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