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Steve_overland



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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Chawton White
Inner wheel arch
Sorry if this has been asked before but is it possible to remove the inner wheel arch without taking the whole wing off (ie the galv bit not either of the two outer parts) I need to fit an under wing washer bottle but cant get it in and don’t want to take whole wing off if I don’t have too…..


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Post #943177 20th Feb 2022 4:38pm
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donmacn



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Couple of typos in there make it a bit difficult to understand all you’re saying.

But no, you can’t remove the inner wing without having the outer wing off first. On the plus side, getting the outer wing off isn’t too difficult. 10 or 11 fixings, and anything else that’s fitted to it in the engine bay.

If you can clarify what an ‘u dear’ washer bottle is…? Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #943179 20th Feb 2022 4:47pm
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Steve_overland



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Location: Gaydon
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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Chawton White
Corrected them now sorry, fat finger. I suspected it was as you say… but just wanted it not to be … @steve_overland on Insta.
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Post #943180 20th Feb 2022 4:49pm
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donmacn



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That’s what I thought you might have meant though!

I fitted an underwing bottle (to my 300Tdi vehicle) and managed that without removing the wings - though I can’t remember how. I know I did take the headlight out so that I could put the pumps in place, and plug them in.

I might have removed the PAS reservoir and turbo pipe too.

Presuming yours is an older car if it didn’t have the under wing tank, so I think it is possible. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #943182 20th Feb 2022 4:54pm
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Steve_overland



Member Since: 14 Oct 2018
Location: Gaydon
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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Chawton White
Going to have a really good look tomorrow, wondered if I took off the wheel arch eyebrow and loosened some bolt it might go in that way…. If not will take the wing off…. I want the space where the square washer sits for an engine pre heater…. @steve_overland on Insta.
110 expedition vehicle with pop roof
Post #943188 20th Feb 2022 6:15pm
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donmacn



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I can take pics (tomorrow!) of where mine sits - but there’s really only one place it can go.

I fitted mine to take one of the Optimill upgraded pumps and screen jet units. I think it was a little awkward to guesstimate where to drill the holes in the inner wing to fit the front of the reservoir, but like I say, apart from that I don’t remember any specific difficulty. Though bear in mind I work on the old Defender scale of awkwardness, which starts from quite a high base.

I plan to use the location of the original bottle for a more weatherproof box for the added electrics I’ve got around there (screen wash pump, Landreiziger headlamp loom, spotlight loom etc) Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #943191 20th Feb 2022 6:44pm
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Steve_overland



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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Chawton White
Will have a try tomorrow and if I can’t do it will let you know @steve_overland on Insta.
110 expedition vehicle with pop roof
Post #943200 20th Feb 2022 7:42pm
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Steve_overland



Member Since: 14 Oct 2018
Location: Gaydon
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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Chawton White
Will have a try tomorrow and if I can’t do it will let you know @steve_overland on Insta.
110 expedition vehicle with pop roof
Post #943201 20th Feb 2022 7:42pm
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Steve_overland



Member Since: 14 Oct 2018
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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Chawton White
It’s in!!! As I have all the pipe work off at the moment because I’m replacing the radiator surround it has been pretty straight forward…. However the pump is broken so now trying to get a replacement for that!!!! Always another job when you have a defender hahah



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Post #943292 21st Feb 2022 1:11pm
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geobloke



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If you have to replace the washer pump have a good look at the Optimal high pressure pump and windscreen washer setup. One of the good mods to do to a Defender Thumbs Up
Post #943294 21st Feb 2022 1:14pm
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donmacn



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Good news that you managed to make it fit!

As I said above I have the Optimill kit - pump and jet unit. Well made and nice stuff. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #943332 21st Feb 2022 6:28pm
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Steve_overland



Member Since: 14 Oct 2018
Location: Gaydon
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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Chawton White
See that’s where I get into trouble you both recommending these things….. how easy is it to fit the nozzle and do you have to take the dash apart?? @steve_overland on Insta.
110 expedition vehicle with pop roof
Post #943344 21st Feb 2022 7:35pm
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donmacn



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Fat fingers…. Tried to reply twice now with an on-screen keyboard and it’s been killed both times as I’ve obviously hit something by mistake.

You would need to take part of the dash out. You might manage with only the top ‘pad’ (About 9 or10 screws all told) but depending on the size and flexibility of your fingers that might not be enough, or might be too awkward.

I’m like you, I dislike doing “behind the dash” jobs, so I tend to build up a wee list of things to do “while I’m in there”.

Next time round - fairly soon, it will be a new fuel gauge, new speedo cable, fix the rubbish speedo lighting, Roamerdrive oil temp gauge, check out the wiper sync (not strictly a ‘dash out’ job) and probably a thing or two I’ve forgotten, and will remember only when the dash is back together! Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #943390 21st Feb 2022 10:26pm
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