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graemesmith1960 Member Since: 03 Sep 2021 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 64 |
Hi. I wanted to order an Activity Key for my MY22 D300 HSE as an accessory, not factory fitted. My dealer is telling me it will be nearly £1000 as I need a module for the car as well as the new style key.
I was under the impression that the activity key was compatible with MY21 onwards without needing a new KVM as it already has Keyless Entry. Has anyone successfully added an activity key to a MY22 as a dealer accessory (not from the factory)? Defender D300 HSE 110 MY22 Pangea Green |
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25th Jan 2022 5:02pm |
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Farmerben Member Since: 16 Jan 2017 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 605 |
Yeah, pretty sure it was only the MY20 that was more hassle retrofitting. MY22 should be fine. https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews
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25th Jan 2022 5:40pm |
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graemesmith1960 Member Since: 03 Sep 2021 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 64 |
That’s what I thought. I’ll get them to ask Landrover Technical otherwise I’ll go to another dealer! Defender D300 HSE 110 MY22 Pangea Green
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25th Jan 2022 5:48pm |
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J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3395 |
Have a look at powerful UKs videos I think they explain different model years. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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25th Jan 2022 6:00pm |
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graemesmith1960 Member Since: 03 Sep 2021 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 64 |
I’ve seen those, they are very good. I think my best option is to take my iPad in to the dealer and make him watch them. To be honest I’ve been through this with Landrover before. The dealer does not seem to keep up with the technology. Unfortunately if you email Landrover direct they just refer you to the dealer! Some time in the past I had a similar issue and got the actual information from Landrover and took it to the dealer to prove my point. Fantastic customer service as ever. (That was me being sarcastic) Defender D300 HSE 110 MY22 Pangea Green
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25th Jan 2022 6:20pm |
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jomara Member Since: 26 Oct 2009 Location: Lanarkshire Posts: 1790 |
Have you thought about reaching out to LR-Retrofits or Venture Automotive to see if an activity key can be added easily?
https://www.facebook.com/100175649040274/posts/148295834228255/ https://lr-retrofits.co.uk/ 2014 110 2.2TDCi XS Station wagon 1971 Bowler Tomcat 88 4.2 V8 Auto 2022 110 D250 XS Edition - Gone 2024 110 D250 X-Dynamic HSE |
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25th Jan 2022 6:41pm |
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graemesmith1960 Member Since: 03 Sep 2021 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 64 |
I really shouldn’t need to do that. It’s advertised in the accessory brochure for the MY21+ and makes no mention of the need for an extra module. I’m pretty sure the dealer is wrong. If not then it’s a trading standards issue for false advertising! Defender D300 HSE 110 MY22 Pangea Green
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25th Jan 2022 7:38pm |
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jomara Member Since: 26 Oct 2009 Location: Lanarkshire Posts: 1790 |
I know how you feel, LR aren’t exactly the bastion of accuracy at times 2014 110 2.2TDCi XS Station wagon
1971 Bowler Tomcat 88 4.2 V8 Auto 2022 110 D250 XS Edition - Gone 2024 110 D250 X-Dynamic HSE |
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25th Jan 2022 7:46pm |
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SVR Member Since: 27 Aug 2020 Location: UAE Posts: 21 |
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26th Jan 2022 9:09am |
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graemesmith1960 Member Since: 03 Sep 2021 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 64 |
Thanks. I’ve been through the PowerfulUK videos again. Unfortunately they are all about a MY20 vehicle. There is a lot of info about the USA cars needing a new KVM if they don’t have keyless entry but that is a red herring. UK MY20 were delivered with a KVM that could only hold 2 keys (for security). I read somewhere that from MY21 onwards the KVM was set up for 3 keys so you could just add the new activity key as a third key.
Unfortunately I cannot find where I read this or find anyone who has successfully added a new activity key to a MY22 to advise if they needed a new KVM. Until I can get a definitive answer my dealer just keeps telling me I need a new KVM as well as the key regardless of the model year. I’ve emailed Landrover but I suspect, as usual, they will just refer me to the dealer. Defender D300 HSE 110 MY22 Pangea Green |
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26th Jan 2022 2:46pm |
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graemesmith1960 Member Since: 03 Sep 2021 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 64 |
Yes, that’s the old key. It was a proximity device. The new one is actually a 3rd key. I’m getting there. On Landrover’s website I’ve found what I think I need as it talks about model years for the new key. MY20 needs 2 items (key and KVM), MY21+ just needs the key. MY20 came out the factory with a KVM that can only hold 2 keys but from 21 onwards the KVM can hold 3 keys. I’m just going to have to go to a different dealer.
They even quote prices. £246 for MY21 onwards including dealer fitting and £450 for MY20 including dealer fitting. That’s half what I’ve been quoted. The accessories brochure has a lower price for the key than the factory price list. I’ve had this before with tow bars on previous models but can’t work out why they do that apart from the fact that a factory accessory will have a 3 year guarantee over the one year for a dealer fit. Defender D300 HSE 110 MY22 Pangea Green |
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27th Jan 2022 9:52am |
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soundslegal Member Since: 30 Oct 2021 Location: Woking Posts: 101 |
Interesting. Keep us posted. If true I'll cancel the activity key from my order and save some ££!
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27th Jan 2022 10:08am |
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graemesmith1960 Member Since: 03 Sep 2021 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 64 |
Ok, still not getting anywhere. I've been on the Disco5 forum and the answers there are similar to here. Some dealers saying you need a new KVM, some saying it depends on what KVM it came with etc. Landrover Tech got back to me and said that although the KVM can take 3 keys (MY21 onwards) it is locked down at the factory so you can't add keys (what happens if you break a key and need a new one?)
I found one person in the same situation as myself. After trying a couple of dealers he got one prepared to do the research and it would appear that you can add a key. His car came from the factory with no pre-order for an activity key but the dealer successfully added the activity key to the existing KVM (as per Landrovers own advertising in the accessory brochure). What I would really like is to find more examples of this so I can be completely sure when I go back to my dealer. Defender D300 HSE 110 MY22 Pangea Green |
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28th Jan 2022 8:19am |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 |
This was published in May 2021 - "Campaign Launch Status - N583 Missing Activity Key & H494 & N580 Pivi Update:
Click image to enlarge The interesting thing being JLR were coming up with a "repair" process for keys to be added by dealers. The Retailer Bulletin from May: https://www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/u...2B2021.pdf |
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29th Jan 2022 9:00am |
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