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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2661  
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I'm after a new jacket, I've trawled through every jacket thread on here and as confused as I was before.
I want a jacket that I can go walking with and without dogs, a bit of clay shooting and general hacking around in. I have a hankering for a Barbour wax jacket but not sure if they are as good as they once were? I like the Harkila range but pockets aren't that deep. What else is out there? Any brands to look at or brands to avoid. As a starter I like the look of the Barbour Beaufort https://www.countryattire.com/barbour-clas...lour=Olive How showerproof is it? A bit of drizzle or a quick shower? Surely a bit more wax would make it waterproof? Or doesn't it work like that? 110 D250 SE HT 110 USW SOLD RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD |
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14th Nov 2021 8:07pm |
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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2661
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Surprisingly, my windproof smock that I was issued about 2000 still fits me. Dug it out the other day but I think it's not right that I wear green anymore. 110 D250 SE HT
110 USW SOLD RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD |
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14th Nov 2021 8:23pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6102  
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Green never goes out of fashion.... still have mine here, it works well.
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14th Nov 2021 8:24pm |
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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2661
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Surprisingly, my windproof smock that I was issued about 2000 still fits me. Dug it out the other day but I think it's not right that I wear green anymore. 110 D250 SE HT
110 USW SOLD RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD |
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14th Nov 2021 8:25pm |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074
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I’ve been through them all on the farm. Barbour are the most useless jacket ever invented IMO. Not waterproof, cold, sweaty and ill fitting. For country walking Schoffel are vastly superior. However they are expensive and not great for anything practical.
My wife and I swear by ridgeline moonsoons, i have the jacket she has the smock. I love mine, ive warn it through some truly awful weather without getting damp or too hot while working. https://www.williampowell.com/brands/ridgeline/ |
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14th Nov 2021 9:44pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3684 
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There is a decent sale on at John Norris at the moment. Both Barbour and Harkila feature.
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15th Nov 2021 6:12am |
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| Intercept Member Since: 27 Feb 2017 Location: Suffolk Posts: 587 
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I've had a Beaufort for many years and I really like it but frankly, despite extensive re-waxing it is not the coat that I pick up on a rainy day. For a cold dry day with a bit of drizzle or a quick shower it is fine, but in persistent rain you'll get wet. The optional accessory hood isn't great either, but can be stored in the poacher's pocket for emergencies. The warm liner is great though, but is only a jerkin. To be brutally honest I have yet to find a jacket that is truly waterproof and comfortable despite spending loads on multiple types. Goretex is only good for about 2 years, and even after Techwash etc to restore the beading it eventually wets through. For the last few years I've bought an ~£80 jacket from HH or Berghaus every 18 months or so. When new they are just as good as a £300 Goretex. The quest for the ultimate jacket continues, so this week I'm off to try out some Paramo, but I also like the look of the Ridgeline stuff linked by lord-haggis earlier... Last edited by Intercept on 15th Nov 2021 5:03pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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15th Nov 2021 10:29am |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074
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Goretex is all well and good until it gets dirty and loses its DWR.
For skiing and hiking (when your in proper gear top to bottom and can layer / delayer and aren't dealing with mud and life Goretex is stll king) I've always had a decent goretex (current is a mountain equipment 3L goretex climbing jacket). I've had it for four years and its still doing its job. For anything that your going to use everyday theres a compromise. Years of dog walking, farming, horses, skiing and hill walking have taught me this. Theres not a jacket out there that does it all 100%, My ridgeline is the closest ive come to the best solution, if Goretex 3l is 100 waterproof and no sweaty but won't last forever under daily grind, my ridgeline is 80% of both, but compared to its equivalent Schoffell that I also have I pick the Rideline up 99% of the time. The Schoffell is still more breathable for the hot wet days of the summer, but its useless when it comes to real Scottish weather, or any manual labour. I've spent dark nights in fields in the ridgeline in sidways rain fixing fences with the horse trying to eat the jacket at the same time and its been fine. A few folk I know swear by them for stalking and huting as well. |
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15th Nov 2021 11:01am |
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| Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1023 
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Having an unhealthy obsession with coats/jackets, for Harkila Pro-Hunters (worth checking ebay for 2nd hand bargains) Seeland are the poorer ginger cousin of Harkila (same company) but can be good value for money. Deerhunter coats are good for cold weather (Muflon) is a favourite, will handle brambles/scrub land all day, but they are warm/hot.
Pinewood (Scandinavian) & Shooterking (Belgium) are worthy lower cost contenders, Schoffel and Blaser are good but eye-watering expensive (I don think as good as Harkila). I like Hoggs of Fife for good value, much better than Jack Pyke. My current wear all the time (dog walking ) is the Baleno Moorland kept me dry on some very heavy down pours, although I would not use if beating/stalking through brambles/gorse. Probably best all rounder is a technical tweed coat that has gore-tex lining or similar for waterproofing, looks smart, washable, good tweed can handle some tough days out. I would stay clear of some of the cheaper waterproof clothing, as its like wearing a crisp packet, ending up wetter from sweat, than a downpour. Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200 Puma 90 XS - Sold D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold) Freelander 2 HSE - Sold Freelander 1 - Sold Disco 2 - Sold |
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15th Nov 2021 11:04am |
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| hank Member Since: 12 Sep 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 2301  
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I have a 2019 Barbour Classic Beaufort. People talk about them "not being what they used to be" etc. but I find it to be of good quality, however not warm. I intend to get Barbour's zip in liner to warm it up
I don't use it for anything hard, more casual wear. Wore it in the peeing rain on bonfire night last week where it didn't let in a drop. Agree that Schoffel make some lovely stuff, I have a few bits but they are not comparable price wise. I don't think there is a single solution on this one - all have their pros and cons. I also have a couple of more 'active' jackets from Patagonia, Columbia, North Face. These are a lot warmer and lightweight and are usually my go to for dog walking. > 110 XS Double Cab |
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15th Nov 2021 11:16am |
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| Hairy Dan Member Since: 25 Apr 2013 Location: NW Durham Posts: 1418 
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I have a Ridgeline Torrent Euro III Jacket and find it great, it's warm, waterproof, windproof and very comfortable to wear and it's excellent value for money. I also have an old Barbour which I cannot remember the name of but it looks very similar to the one that you mention, I actually bought it from the Barbour factory, I find it OK and waterproof but it doesn't breathe as well as the Ridgeline so you tend to get a bit sweaty if you're doing any sort of work in it and I don't find it particularly warm.
https://www.newforestclothing.co.uk/produc...6433715391  Cheers Ian
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15th Nov 2021 12:57pm |
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| hank Member Since: 12 Sep 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 2301
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Something else to be aware of with Barbour, their 'Classic' wax jackets are made in UK. So the Classic Beaufort that you link to (same as mine) will likely be superior to a 'normal' Beaufort which could be made internationally. > 110 XS Double Cab
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15th Nov 2021 1:17pm |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1319 
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My wife and I both highly rate Paramo jackets. With regular machine Techwash reproofing, they are incredibly waterproof and don't rely on taped seams which I always think are a weak link. They are used by many of the Mountain Rescue teams and I'm sure they wouldn't put up with inferior gear (even if there is some subsidy or sponsorship from Paramo). I also have several Paramo water repellent fleece jackets that have proven to be virtually indestructible. Even the one I consigned to the toughest of outdoor work.
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15th Nov 2021 4:35pm |
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| jim4244 Member Since: 13 Apr 2014 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 808  
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I quite like Hoggs of Fife country clothing. Hard wearing and good value, I have worn one of their Strathmoor jackets for 10 years now.
I think that the below is the replacement https://www.newforestclothing.co.uk/produc...ld-jacket# Jim |
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15th Nov 2021 5:17pm |
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