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Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1025 |
JLR have uncle Gerry and team for that task
Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200 Puma 90 XS - Sold D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold) Freelander 2 HSE - Sold Freelander 1 - Sold Disco 2 - Sold |
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10th Aug 2021 11:52am |
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markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2645 |
Americans do drive great distances on 37’ , 40’ and 42’s.
The Lite Brite ‘Stepchild’ on 40’s and a V8 will do 90 mph in comfort. It’s a US thing. Also many States allow tyres protruding the body work and hence in the Jeep world to go above 37’s they tend to swap to a 1 ton axle, which is also wider. Again, we in the UK don’t (in general) swap axles or even re-gear the diffs when upping tyre sizes. And that quote from Loren is gold, Ford have given us off roaders what they want, a platform you can modify. Simple really…….thanks Gerry Last edited by markb110 on 10th Aug 2021 2:36pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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10th Aug 2021 2:30pm |
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markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2645 |
I would have said yes…….but the association feels more speed related due to their heritage, not the low speed pace most of us enjoy in the real world across Salisbury Plain and other byways across the country Low profile tyres, what can you say. Did you see that scene between the two rocks where the Nitto tyre folded back on itself….try that with a 22…. |
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10th Aug 2021 2:35pm |
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Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510 |
The platform is simple budget pickup, a version of the next Ranger - maybe those kind of toys make sense in the States, but over here, with corners and roundabouts and narrow roads, it would just be an unpleasant experience that looks camper than a row of tents. |
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10th Aug 2021 2:40pm |
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diduan Member Since: 13 Oct 2016 Location: Central Balkan Posts: 260 |
Again, times are changing. Offroad ARBs are the big thing now, allowing great flex on the rocks and surprisingly good on road roll stiffness. Low spring rates are the next big thing. The idea is to generate dynamic force using the damper for additional support. The concept works great for dual purpose rigs - daily driver/ weekend rock crawler. It isn't terrible at all. The bronco on 37s won't need this, but only a mild lift and you can have a very capable rig, that is also a great road car. Edit: I didn't think about axles...if it has the dana44 I wouldn't go any bigger than 35". Defender 110 SW MY2011 2.4tdci decat, no EGR Jeep Wrangler YJ 1990 4.0. Front 78' Dana 60, Rear CUCV 14 bolt |
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10th Aug 2021 3:01pm |
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Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510 |
Times may be changing, but physics isn’t - there always going to be a trade-off in a passive set-up.
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10th Aug 2021 3:49pm |
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diduan Member Since: 13 Oct 2016 Location: Central Balkan Posts: 260 |
I think I must give up here.🍻 Defender 110 SW MY2011 2.4tdci decat, no EGR
Jeep Wrangler YJ 1990 4.0. Front 78' Dana 60, Rear CUCV 14 bolt |
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10th Aug 2021 4:23pm |
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markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2645 |
Philip
Can you please do us all a favour and sit and watch 10 hours of the main King of the Hammers event in Johnston Valley. These ‘systems’ are capable of 100 mph through the desert, then race over rocks, then rock crawl for lap after lap. Why do you continue to belittle others yet I have not seen any evidence that you are someone ‘who does’, just talks. We all know that we can’t have the same set up as they have in America, partly laws, partly terrain but in the whole Land Rover does not want to attract our kind anymore. But guess what, we can dream. We can bemoan a company that still trades on its long ( and fading) past and capabilities but offers no enthusiasm or support or passion for people like me and many others on this forum who actually like to get our tyres dirty, who count the scratches with pride. If you have never taken part in a winch challenge events, a British Army Navigation events, never spent a day up to you knees in water winching the paying public out of a hole, never organised a 200 mile navigation event for a club on Salisbury Plain, then to be honest. I / we just don’t care. And yes, I’ve done all of the above. The rest of us don’t get excited about speed humps and Tesco’s car parks, we are too busy having our own adventures in our own way and dreaming of the next one. |
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10th Aug 2021 5:10pm |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 |
I enjoyed that. Mighty impressive setup and loved the simple, slow and calm way it raised and lowered itself over the obstacles. And those tyres... Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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10th Aug 2021 6:07pm |
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What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952 |
Philip, can you just tell us if you work for JLR - it would make sense. And I don't think referring to any vehicle as camp is very grown up, to be honest. The singer, Will Young, is a huge Defender fan. Means nothing, does it? Now left.
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10th Aug 2021 6:08pm |
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Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510 |
King of the Hammers has about as much relevance to a regular roadgoing Bronco (or Defender) as Baja does to Barnsley, great engineering, cool to watch - but you might as well bemoan the fact that your new 720S won’t pull 5g like an F1 car does. |
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10th Aug 2021 9:30pm |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 |
To get back on topic... more from Ford:
Click image to enlarge Overland Expo (@OverlandExpo) Tweeted: To celebrate SEMA’s return, Ford just announced that four custom Broncos and two Bronco Sport SUVs will make their debut in booth #22200 at SEMA to demonstrate the endless possibilities for enhancing and personalizing your own Bronco build. https://t.co/tFEQWlA1dU https://t.co/MvxCupuDYV https://twitter.com/OverlandExpo/status/1452281190300491791?s=20 “Bronco and Bronco Sport customers love parts and accessories that emphasize performance and off-road lifestyle, so we worked closely with Bronco design and vehicle engineering to deliver the products to match their individual lifestyle,” said Eric Cin, Ford global director, vehicle personalization, accessories and licensing. “Since the reveal last year, we’ve expanded the line to more than 350 Bronco and Bronco Sport parts and accessories and growing.” https://www.overlandexpo.com/compass/2021/...d-broncos/ Imagine if JLR had that level of confidence... Curious to know more about: "The Bronco-specific 17 x 8.5-inch Method 703 Bead Grip® wheels are made from solid T6 heat-treated A356 aluminum with patented Bead Grip technology for increased tire bead security when running at lower pressures off-road." |
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24th Oct 2021 2:49pm |
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markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2645 |
Yes, that Method wheel looks very interesting.
Almost had to take a lay down when I read the quote…… For the US off road market bead locks are definitely a thing due to the low pressures they run, the Nitto Trail Grapplers can be run at zero PSI due to the strength of the side walls……..however not many States actually allow bead locks on the road, they just get away with it. Maybe Method have come up with a solution, that’s legal, with the full backing of Ford. And this is a good thing for the consumer, as well as giving Ford the confidence that their customers will use the product responsibly but still allowing choice and above all fun. |
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24th Oct 2021 5:39pm |
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22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150 |
I swear I saw a Bronco on the road in the UK not long ago, looked like the smaller version and partially disguised. If it wasn't a Bronco it was very similar! 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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26th Oct 2021 5:27pm |
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