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wyvern



Member Since: 13 Dec 2009
Location: Cornwall
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
As above - just fitted the condenser and the temp goes down when on, but the fan does not work from the plug - good earth but no positive power

Tested the fan and it works ok when direct power is applied but not from the plug - the green/black cable is in tact ...
and the 10 amp fuse under the dash is in good order ...

any pointers ??

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LandRoverAnorak



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Doesn't the fan only run when required? I seem to remember it doesn't tend to run that often either, unless it's particularly hot. Darren

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wyvern



Member Since: 13 Dec 2009
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
I’m not sure when its supposed to comes on ... I’ll look at my partners and see what conditions makes that one come on ...


Thumbs Up Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
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landy andy



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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
Havd ypu got a Nanocom? If so you can fire the fan 👍🏻
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hank



Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
New condenser fitted today and will regass tomorrow.

I went with one of these ‘aftermarket’ ones - £250 delivered which beats £450 for the OE type. Ordered on the 16th, arrived on the 23rd and without customs charges Thumbs Up these are designed for hotter climates and almost twice the size. Quality is excellent, very nicely made. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Capacitor-Air-C...082833030y

As for fitting… Not quite a direct swap Laughing but pretty straightforward. Took around twenty mins.

There are fan mounting brackets on the new condenser however they are designed to accommodate a 15” fan whereas the OE fan is 12” - perhaps the AC fan is 15” on the continent?

Anyway I bolted the original fan through the cooling fins the same as the mounting arrangement on the OE condenser. Works fine but I may keep my eyes peeled for a 15” one

Then the condenser fouled slightly on the intercooler, perhaps as my intercooler is aftermarket? So I spaced the condenser forward with some nylon spacers approx 10mm thick.

Finally the aluminium AC pipes were slightly out of alignment but are easily tweaked to suit.


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jst



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^^^ that looks good and just changed mine too! would of gone this option, cant hurt to be bigger, so presumably they need to add more refrigerant if the system is bigger rather than a std fill? Cheers

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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
whose the seller please, link doesnt work Cheers

James
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130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
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hank



Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Whoops, try this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DEFE...890.l49286

The seller said “Since your new condenser is slightly bigger than the old one, you need to top up a bit more refrigerant gas”

I spoke with the manufacturer (Shuberg Radiators Malta) who said 70 - 100g additional refrigerant depending on climate - to be determined using gauges. Spoke with a local AC specialist who said he would use gauges to determine peak efficiency Thumbs Up > 110 XS Double Cab
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
excellent, thank you. Cheers

James
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130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
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Post #909394 25th Jun 2021 10:36am
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hank



Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Air con gassed today. No leaks detected on the leak test, 700g gas, leak tracing fluid and oil pumped in... Icy cold air conditioning once again Thumbs Up Will make a big difference driving through France.

One thing the guy said which I had complete wrong in my mind was to use the AC as much as possible. I actively try to use it as little as possible, king of preservatively I suppose. He said this does the components no good. > 110 XS Double Cab
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newton-tony



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Firenze Red
hank wrote:
Whoops, try this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DEFE...890.l49286

The seller said “Since your new condenser is slightly bigger than the old one, you need to top up a bit more refrigerant gas”

I spoke with the manufacturer (Shuberg Radiators Malta) who said 70 - 100g additional refrigerant depending on climate - to be determined using gauges. Spoke with a local AC specialist who said he would use gauges to determine peak efficiency Thumbs Up


Apologies if obvious, but the link says for TD5 - is that right? Or also good for a 2014 TDCi (as in my case)? Thumbs Up
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hank



Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Same condenser Thumbs Up > 110 XS Double Cab
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Matt110



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Given the weather you've got there right now do you notice a performance improvement with the bigger condenser?
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andre.prum



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Luxembourg 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Fuji White
I am reading this thread as I have been suffering from excessive heat (>40 °C) in my Puma 2.4 on the French highways two days ago. I had a Coolair Logan Aircon fitted to my car recently. The system works but once the engine is hot not even 1 hour driving at 120 km/h) the aircon blows only warm air into the cabin so that I need to switch it off. Gas has been controlled and set to 625g as recommended by Coolair Logan.
Any advice would be most welcome.
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LandRoverAnorak



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I'd take a look at your heater control valve to see if it's closing properly. They have a habit of sticking and letting water by, which can overwhelm the AC when the engine is properly hot. Darren

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