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Grenadier



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I used that Prince, and can highly recommend him. He’s managing my funds on my behalf very, very well. No more money sloshing around and being a dead weight in my accounts anymore, nice and empty. He’s keeping me posted on investments. Whistle Monsieur Le Grenadier

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Supacat



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DSC-off wrote:
You're welcome.

I know the company very well, that designed and builds the frame.


Don't you work for them in the NE?

Isn't the Grenadier chassis made in Bielefeld, Germany, by Gestamp?
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Mini Landie



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Bluest wrote:
Odd how they proudly announced their partnership with Bridgestone yet every one I’ve seen to date has been on BFGs.


White lettering facing outwards as well. Take note, people. That's the right way to do it. Cool

Ignore the bashed-in bumper. That was a tree and nothing to do with me, my driving ability nor the white lettering facing outwards. Whistle

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DSC-off



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Supacat wrote:
DSC-off wrote:
You're welcome.

I know the company very well, that designed and builds the frame.


Don't you work for them in the NE?

Isn't the Grenadier chassis made in Bielefeld, Germany, by Gestamp?


Yes, I work for Gestamp in the North East UK.
Bielefeld is widely reported as the chassis supplier. They have been a sister plant to us since Thyssen owned the business, long before Gestamp.
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Supacat



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Can't find anything directly related to Ineos/Bielefeld (possibly because full production hasn't started yet), but this shows chassis build at the plant for the VW Amarok.


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Fully automatic arc welding line from KUKA Systems at Gestamp
The metal-forming and chassis specialists at Gestamp manufacture ladder frames for the VW plant in Hanover. The Gestamp plant in Bielefeld is now using a fully automatic arc welding system from KUKA Systems to ensure the highest quality, proven process reliability and high output with minimal manpower requirements.

The finished Amarok ladder frame weighs 230 kilograms, is almost five meters long and nearly one and a half meters wide, making it the largest part ever produced at the Gestamp plant in Bielefeld. Well over 200 individual steel parts are used to produce it.
https://www.kuka.com/en-us/industries/solu...ms-gestamp

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County V8



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Amazing production this is how they used to be made


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Seems to make sense. I thought a good review. Put off by the same reason as the new defender, too wide. Doesn’t fit in my 1970’s carport.
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Where it will struggle here is where we need things to be a tiny bit thinner, my measure of a normal modern pick up is a hilux at 1850mm wide. I know a fellow farmer had to widen a couple of his gates when he got an Amarok which is slimmer than the new Def and Grenadier.
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Supacat



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County V8 wrote:
Hi All
Have you booked your test drive ????

Danny Fireblade wrote:
Bit early to be booking that isn’t it?

County V8 wrote:
No got a slot on there 14th


Please spill more details?
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Grenadier



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https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/ineos/grenadier-4x4/ Monsieur Le Grenadier

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Supacat



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Interesting read. Thumbs Up

"At Goodwood's Festival of Speed, the interest levels in new cars are clear to see. Hype and demand switch from being nebulous to being very obvious, and physical – if there's a scrum to get onto your stand, chances are the great buying public's hot for your machine."

"It was the same story at Ineos, with the Grenadier 4x4. The crowd on the stand was five-deep all day; the love for this desirable new utility SUV clear to see."

But this seems to be Censored :

"We won't drive the Grenadier until 2022, when the healthy list of buyers with an order placed will also start to see their cars."

Who's got an order placed, is there a healthy list?
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Grenadier



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I read that about owners, but I assume it’s an extrapolation of ‘registered interest’. Certainly as a low key review it sounds very positive, as does visible (as opposed to claimed on a marketing dept release) public interest. Monsieur Le Grenadier

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lord-haggis wrote:
Where it will struggle here is where we need things to be a tiny bit thinner, my measure of a normal modern pick up is a hilux at 1850mm wide. I know a fellow farmer had to widen a couple of his gates when he got an Amarok which is slimmer than the new Def and Grenadier.


Is the Grenadiers width of 2.13m including the mirrors?
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GSDChauffeur



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lord-haggis wrote:
Where it will struggle here is where we need things to be a tiny bit thinner, my measure of a normal modern pick up is a hilux at 1850mm wide. I know a fellow farmer had to widen a couple of his gates when he got an Amarok which is slimmer than the new Def and Grenadier.


Is the Grenadiers width of 2.13m including the mirrors?

Edit: sorry for double post. Can I delete this?
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My understanding is the Grenadier width with mirrors is 84.0 inches (2.13 meters) and without mirrors is 78.0 inches (1.98 meters).

I have searched available reports, which have stated the overall length is 194.0 inches (4.93 meters), height is 80.0 inches (2.03 meters), and wheelbase is 115.0 inches (2.92 meters). The overall length and wheelbase are 10 inches longer than Toyota FJ Cruiser for both categories. However, I have not discovered the track width (front and rear) for the Grenadier as of yet.

Also, the Grenadier tires are Bridgestone 265/70R17 or 255/70R18, both are 32" diameter tires. I prefer the 17s due to the higher tire sidewall for off-roading. The FJ Cruiser tires from the factory were 265/70R17. Although I haven't discovered the ground clearance specification, the FJ Cruiser was 9.6 inches with factory wheels and tires, which was adequate for all but extreme off-roading.

I like the Grenadier solution for ensuring traction (front and rear lockers) and solid (beam) axles. The FJ had to resort to electronic trickery because it had independent front suspension (IFS) and no front locker. The CV joints for the Grenadier will not incur the same stress dynamics that occur with the IFS. All this favor of Ineos design.
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