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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150   
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I agree there are plenty of cowboys out there, I have to compete with them myself. This law will get rid of the cowboys (we hope) but also some of the smaller decent oeprators like myself who simply cannot afford to comply. I have two choices, either work illegally and hope I don't get caught, or find a new job. In a recession. Bloody marvellous. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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23rd Sep 2011 3:08pm |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363 
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Or comply.... you have had bad info regarding a standard national O licence and to be honest you will probably be 3/4 way there already with maintainence records and roadworthiness standards. You will need to get the wife to sit a CPC exam to be your nominated TM and have around £1,500 in the bank for each vehicle you require a disc for and that can be a Credit card or in savings... Simples? 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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23rd Sep 2011 3:16pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150
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Having the money to apply for the OL, and the CPC exam (I think I can actually do this myself) and for the vehicles (I presume 1500 each for Landrover and trailer, although my understanding was £8500) is the problem. Right now every penny I earn is going back into the business, leaving us with very little off the top, we can't save anything and I can't see my bank manager lending us another load of cash, as that would put my repayments up, which when you struggle to get a full weeks work anyway I just can't afford. Customers want it all for free and getting them to pay a decent price is hard work, most would rather just not bother. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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23rd Sep 2011 3:19pm |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363
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I have just spoke to VOSA and it all changed in 2009 when you used to pay per vehicle.
It is now as follows.. To apply- £250 Issuing the licence- £391 Fund per vehicle- First vehicle £8,100 and every other £4,500 CPC can be around £600 Advertising in local paper can vary but figure around £100 A bit stiff for a blue disc???? Just get a farmers son to do it and swipe 50% off the top? Welcome to sub-contracting. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS.. |
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23rd Sep 2011 3:45pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150
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My point exactly. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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23rd Sep 2011 3:49pm |
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| pom Member Since: 01 Jun 2010 Location: Worcester Posts: 1343 |
if its that sort of money then I'd dump the landy and trailer and get one of those trucks with a movable loadbed that you winch the car onto like the AA use. they cant be over 7.5ton so can drive on a car licence.
Just forget trailers! Pom |
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23rd Sep 2011 3:50pm |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363
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Then go out and buy a BIG lorry like mine that does 7mpg and costs £30k a year to keep on the road and go out and run for farmers!!! 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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23rd Sep 2011 3:51pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150
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You need an O licence for anything over 3.5 tonnes now. I do actually have HGV2 but I needed that to drive anything over 3500KG GVW due to when I passed my test. Those transit/sprinter beavertails with 3500Kg GVW you see about can only carry about 1500KG, nowhere near enough for the kind of cars I move. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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23rd Sep 2011 3:53pm |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363
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I have a few Standard National O licences spare and if you lived up here you could borrow one until things picked up... 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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23rd Sep 2011 3:58pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150
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I thought they were non-transferable? 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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23rd Sep 2011 4:02pm |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363
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I can put MY "O" licence on any vehicle i wish to and i then become responsible for all aspects of law and road worthiness. They are not transferable between vehicles. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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23rd Sep 2011 4:04pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150
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I work that out as £13941...  2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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23rd Sep 2011 4:59pm |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363
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No, you only have to prove you can access the required funds if need be. A credit card or loan from a friend or an overdraft facility will keep them happy... assets don't count. VOSA just need to know you have the means to repair and run the vehicle correctly. The day after you have proven you are financially enabled you can empty your account and rip your cards up. I did. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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23rd Sep 2011 5:06pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150
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True, but I still would have to set up the availability... As you will understand I don't want to go too far into the intricate details of setting up my business, but lets just say there is not much left I can get from my bank. My set up load was less than what I need to have set aside for the Landrover. I would also assume the trailer counts as a second vehicle and so needs £4500, which is crazy as it didn't even cost me that to buy. All sounds like too many hoops to jump through to me. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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23rd Sep 2011 5:34pm |
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