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PCM

Member Since: 25 Jan 2019
Location: North East
Posts: 895

In doing a bit (lot) of investigation I’ve also come up with massive variance in prices.
I can get someone to supply and even fit the m57 kit for not very much, but reality bites when you need start digging into the finer details.
Where is the engine from? What has been reconditioned and where. What else has been tweaked or included drivetrain wise to make sure it doesn’t fail after 18 months of use and out of warranty. Britpart or Winchester etc..
For me it’s about service and trust to know that firstly it won’t go bang and secondly that if it does it’ll get sorted with or without warranty for a fair price.
Sorry to hear 4x4 fab don’t have the best rep so they’re out for now at least.

26th Apr 2021 7:48pm

pj2106

Member Since: 20 Dec 2012
Location: Huntingdon AKA The Shire
Posts: 1500

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

Mine is booked in with Wiseman’s engineering been very helpful at shows with info and great response to phone and email enquiries

Can’t wait for July

I brought an x3 single turbo 218bhp with 6 speed box for 3k and I’ll scrap the rest of what’s needed or strip and recoup some costs

On top of that mines coming in about 12k inc cat but that’s with atb diffs fro t rear and middle custom exhaust and uprated transfer box and GW mega props and a few other tasty bits tuning to be done by Alive on the dyno expecting 300+- and circa 6-650nm with tiptronic and sport mode linked to d4 console and Dias gear selector 2008 110 2.4 XS Utility (Hagrid)
2002 90 TD5 Hardtop (Sully) Sold
1998 300TDi D1 (Billy) Sold

26th Apr 2021 10:22pm

Bucko

Member Since: 21 Nov 2016
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 43

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

That sounds pretty impressive for 12k, especially considering the atb diffs and tuned to 300bhp/650nm. It’s going to be fun, I can understand why you can’t wait.

I’d really like 8 cylinders, but I’m struggling to justify the costs of the LS3. But after having driven a petrol v8 with its lovely smooth and linear power delivery, the noisy rattling little 2.2 transit diesel is starting to irk. Maybe the M57 is the way forward, it certainly seems to be popular at the minute. I’ve not experienced this engine but I assume the straight six bmw lump would be as refined as you could expect from a diesel, and should produce a nice enough engine note.

Has anyone any experience of an M57 in a defender? Or do any of the companies carrying out these conversions have a demo to poke around?

27th Apr 2021 1:32pm

Pickles

Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3790

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green

Your car, your money, your choice,....and I do understand that.
So, no "smart alec" comments from me, so I can only suggest that, if you drive an LS3 powered Defender, it may give you the "patience" to save a bit more to get a very special engine.
Pickles.

27th Apr 2021 10:44pm

mata

Member Since: 24 Jan 2014
Location: Manchester
Posts: 153

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

Ive got an M57 conversion in my 2009 110 utility. I’m very, very happy with it. Been a lockdown project with MW Machines who are local to me. We’ve got it running the ZF 8 speed auto which is ace.

I’ve got history with the M57 and know it’s strengths, for me when my 150k 2.4 ruined the second holiday I nearly sold the defender, but found Marcus (MWMachines) on a YouTube video demoing his first 90 m57 development car and arrange to meet him for a chat.

I really don’t have anything bad to say about the conversion, given the availability and low cost of the engines and boxes in the UK, and how reliable, strong and refined they are, for me it’s a no brainier.

12th May 2021 8:40pm

Mo Murphy

Member Since: 01 Jun 2008
Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts
Posts: 2286

1984 Defender 90 BMW M57 3.0 Diesel HT Auto Pennine Grey

Nice !
Have they remote mounted the LT230 behind the 8sp auto or is it using a conversion plate ?
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

50 Shades of Pennine Grey

13th May 2021 9:43am

mata

Member Since: 24 Jan 2014
Location: Manchester
Posts: 153

The lt230 mates to the 8hp using an adapter housing and shaft much like the puma mt82 gearbox. Works a treat.

13th May 2021 9:47am

Mo Murphy

Member Since: 01 Jun 2008
Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts
Posts: 2286

Cool, thanks Mata

Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

50 Shades of Pennine Grey

13th May 2021 11:44am

Morea

Member Since: 20 Jan 2011
Location: Asturies
Posts: 201

Hello, I am interested in making change to M57 of my Puma. I want to keep manual gearbox. Best original mt82 reinforced gearbox or BMW gearbox?. The gap, gearbox fastening distances is the same? The only thing that is modified are the engine supports? What consumption in Liters do they do with this modification? Thanks in advance for everything. Sorry for my English, it's not technical. http://www.clublandrovertt.org/index.php?a...ype=avatar

11th Aug 2021 7:07am

mata

Member Since: 24 Jan 2014
Location: Manchester
Posts: 153

Have a loom at the Facebook group ‘Land Rover and others BMW engine conversions’ which will have the information you’re asking for in the pinned post.

11th Aug 2021 8:24am

Morea

Member Since: 20 Jan 2011
Location: Asturies
Posts: 201

Thanks a lot. http://www.clublandrovertt.org/index.php?a...ype=avatar

11th Aug 2021 8:46am

Chuchi_EL Drac

Member Since: 21 Aug 2014
Location: Valladolid
Posts: 15

Hi Morea,
I´ll be attentive if you go ahead with the M57 sawap.

11th Aug 2021 10:34am

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