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TRR Motorsport

Member Since: 07 Oct 2010
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 115

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 ST Galway Green

Transmission lash on a 11my 90

Guys,

I've got a 11 model year 90 that's just coming up on a year old. it has covered 24500 miles and is suffering from worsening lash (slack) in the transmission.

It's got to the point now where it is almost impossible to make a smooth gearchange up the box. Even in traffic when applying light loads to the throttle there is a deffinate feeling of unwanted movement in the tranmission.

It goes in for a service on Thursday and I wondered if anyone else on the forum has had the same problem and has been able to pinpoint the cause? Or is it a known problem?

I want to go in forearmed in an attempt to avoid the usual Sturgess Bullsh!t and soft soap.

Thanks in advance.

James "If it ain't sideways, you just ain't tryin'!

20th Sep 2011 11:42am

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green

With the engine ticking over and in neutral, depress and release the clutch pedal several times if it makes a loudish clunk repeat with the service manager stood next to it, then tell him you want a new clutch. Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
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20th Sep 2011 12:06pm

TRR Motorsport

Member Since: 07 Oct 2010
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 115

Thanks for that Willy,

I've just tried it. it clunks alright. not a normal sound. not something i'd notice when driving. is there a particular part that fails?

I'm guessing it's a known fault then? "If it ain't sideways, you just ain't tryin'!

20th Sep 2011 12:12pm

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

Yes, bad clutchs, eventually the shunt springs in the clutch plate wear the holes they are mounted in, then they fall out, start with the clutch then see how the gearbox etc is. A good clutch won't make the clunk. Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper

20th Sep 2011 12:38pm

TRR Motorsport

Member Since: 07 Oct 2010
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 115

So are the replacement parts the same or upgraded?

Oh, let me guess, its LR. They'll be the same parts! "If it ain't sideways, you just ain't tryin'!

20th Sep 2011 12:49pm

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

I believe there is an upgrade or two, someone will come along and put me right with the part numbers, may be worth checking with TLO (the large one) over on disco3 site, he is a Land Rover Parts guru and will give you the part number that should be fitted. He is very helpful just PM him explaining you are on Def2 and he will get back to you. Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper

20th Sep 2011 12:58pm

TRR Motorsport

Member Since: 07 Oct 2010
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 115

Superb! Thanks Willy "If it ain't sideways, you just ain't tryin'!

20th Sep 2011 1:01pm

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
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http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic7504.h...art+number Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper

20th Sep 2011 1:08pm

FG

Member Since: 01 Apr 2011
Location: Somewhere on the Swedish East Coast
Posts: 63

2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

I've got the exact same problems as you. Sometimes it feels like the driveline consists of a slack rubber band, nigh on impossible to achieve smooth gearchanges. Finally getting the clutch replaced in two weeks really hoping it to change things!

/FG

20th Sep 2011 7:05pm

TRR Motorsport

Member Since: 07 Oct 2010
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 115

Umm, thinking about it the clutch wouldn't be responsible for any feeling of excessive play in the driveline. I'm not convinced that the clutch is OK but there's another fault here for sure.

It's in tomorrow so I'll keep you posted. "If it ain't sideways, you just ain't tryin'!

21st Sep 2011 9:43am

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

You need to change the clutch by the sound of it anyway, so might as well start there. There where quite a few earlier Defenders that came out with loose drive propshaft bolts and missing grease nipples, which are both easy to check. You will be surprised how much difference a new clutch makes. Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
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21st Sep 2011 10:16am

Shax

Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
Location: London
Posts: 391

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Mine has been in 4 times for shyte gearbox and clutch problems... Things are getting worse as time goes on, but I still have 15 months warranty left, so it looks like I'll be using it to its end..
Gonna leave it till the next service is due, and hopefully, things will be so bad, that it might just get fixed....

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21st Sep 2011 11:06pm

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
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he has not contacted me yet and i have not got a login for Def2 as of yet so heres what he needs to look out for so you could pass it back to him
Reply from TLO

Clutch kit he needs is
LR012199
this is the latest version of the clutch and can be identified by some white retainers on the sprong plate of the centre plate
if you look at the centre plate flat you will see the centre spline hole
around that is 4 square resesses
on the older clutch these are black, on the new version of the clutch plate they are white

HTH

NIck

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23rd Sep 2011 7:26am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2638

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

willy eckerslike wrote:
With the engine ticking over and in neutral, depress and release the clutch pedal several times if it makes a loudish clunk repeat with the service manager stood next to it, then tell him you want a new clutch.

Mine does the same but when I last pointed this out to the workshop manager, he gave me the usual 'it's normal' line.

How do I force them to replace it!?

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23rd Sep 2011 1:26pm

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2414

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

Burn the friction plate, i.e. make it slip until you start to smell like warm horse

. It should not take that long Puma 110" SW

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23rd Sep 2011 3:46pm

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