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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753  
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Try setting the two dials for temperature on the dash to 26 or 27. Are you using the additional fob or the app remote start o start heating? Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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22nd Apr 2021 1:21pm |
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| risulasi Member Since: 22 Apr 2021 Location: Turku Posts: 7 
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Will try that.
I am using the additional fob. |
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22nd Apr 2021 4:08pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8010 
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whats the ambient temp? Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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22nd Apr 2021 6:16pm |
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| risulasi Member Since: 22 Apr 2021 Location: Turku Posts: 7
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Outdoor temperature has been around 0 celsius.
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23rd Apr 2021 8:04am |
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| 4B4B Member Since: 30 Apr 2021 Location: Midlands Posts: 83 
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Apologies for deviating slightly from the original topic, but is the Webasto heater a standard option on these vehicles?
I'm currently pricing up the general options to place an order shortly for a new 90, but can't see any info on the website about how to add it as an option, or if it's already standard. If anyone could confirm that would be great. |
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30th Apr 2021 1:30pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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It is in Scandinavia and I believe an engine block heater is available there too.
You can spec a Fuel burner Webasto type in the U.K. but you get a remote start function for the engine that preheats 9not very well) the cabin too. The remote start function is in the inControl App. In the UK you can spec it from the configurator by clicking Options, Interior Features and it’s a £1080 option I’m not sure if it is available on all models though  Click image to enlarge Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 30th Apr 2021 8:27pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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30th Apr 2021 4:27pm |
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| Simon Audi Member Since: 19 Nov 2020 Location: Newport Posts: 544
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Just for clarity
The UK car comes with the Incontrol - that gives you the option to remotely start you car - thus warming it up before you get in it. If the temp is below 4'C it also activates heated screens. The Option Tim shows is an extra heater - although someone said their car had it (without paying for it - don't remember who) So if you live somewhere really cold the Webasto (remote Extra Heater) may be for you. But 30 minutes prestart - probably costs less in Diesel over 3 years than the option cost.... |
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30th Apr 2021 4:40pm |
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| 4B4B Member Since: 30 Apr 2021 Location: Midlands Posts: 83
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Thanks for the really useful replies.
Tim, I can see the option now you’ve pointed out where to look. (Don’t know how I missed it now!) Thanks. Looks like it’s available on all models. And Simon, it’s a good point you make about the remote start as an alternative to shelling out another grand. |
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30th Apr 2021 8:04pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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One thing - if you are ordering the P400e then there is no need to order the optional fuel powered heater - like most other PHEVs the P400e can be set to heat the cabin either from the dashboard/PiviPro or the app (here is the caveat!) so long as it is plugged into a charger. I made an expensive mistake when ordering my last car which was a Mini Countryman PHEV by speccing the optional heated front screen ........... I NEVER in 2 years used it because the timed cabin heater not only warmed the cabin up 30 minutes before the trip started it defrosted every window in the car and the mirrors and the glass roof!
Edit - you are ordering a 90 which isn’t yet available as a PHEV, but this info may be handy for somebody ordering a 110 P400e Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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30th Apr 2021 8:24pm |
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| 4B4B Member Since: 30 Apr 2021 Location: Midlands Posts: 83
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Thanks Tim. Interesting for people to know.
Even if the P400e was an option on the 90, I'd still have to go for a 'dirty' Heavy Oil burner version due to a lot of long runs motorways. |
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2nd May 2021 4:47pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8010
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More than likely but avoiding true cold starts by running a fbh to warm the coolant can't be a bad thing. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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2nd May 2021 6:47pm |
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| hezor Member Since: 01 Feb 2021 Location: Nurmijärvi Posts: 53
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4B4B, here in Finland, the Webasto comes standard in every Defender. Even in the P400e PHEV, where there is an option to choose to preheat the cabin with the Webasto or using electricity from the mains grid. 22MY Defender 110 P400e SE w/ Off-Road Pack, Driver Assist Pack, Cold Climate Pack, Comfort & Convenience Pack + ClearSight Rear-View Mirror & 11.4" Infotainment Screen
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3rd May 2021 4:03am |
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| Julep Member Since: 07 Nov 2020 Location: Jersey Posts: 25 
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While I may have made a stupid costly mistake I am happy to share here.
When specing up my 110 there were a few things I really wanted and the remote heating option was one of them. I had it for 10 years in my Disco4 and loved it. The only down side was the speed it drained the battery, so I would often hook up a CTEK to an enteral port I fitted (so pretty much the same issue as Tim had with his Mini requiring external power). It was a pain but worth the luxury of a warmed engine and cabin in the winter. Now I was completely unaware (or was never informed) of the Remote InControl App Climate control, so was very confused when I was given a Fob at the dealer (exactly the same as as my Disco4 one) and was told I wouldn't need it as I had the Remote InControl Climate option..!?!? To be honest it was my mistake for not fully understanding the options but in the early days I think we were all a little confused. As for my experience of both these systems (am I the only one foolish enough to have done this?) They are VERY separate. The additional Heat Pack gives you 2 activation options, The Fob and the Timed Climate on the PiviPro. The fob has an incredible range (well the Disco4 did, not really tested the Def one yet) and could start the FBH a good 300-400M away as long as you had line of sight. And the Timed Climate allows you to set start times during the day, this is a lot better than the Disco was as I can now set specific times on specific days. The Timed Climate system DOES NOT link with the InControl App, so can't active the FBH if you have not either set the Schedule or you are in Fob range. To be honest, I do use both systems. I use the Fob for those Early morning 6:00 starts where I don't want to wake the house and neighborhood with the engine tick over, and I use the InControl App Climate any other time I'm not in Fob distance. As for OP (sorry risulasi for my ramble) my FBH will only heat the cabin if the external temp is less than 15 Degrees. If the external Temp is above that then the internal blowers vent fresh air in to cool the cabin, just like it did in the Disco4. There is no option that I have found to change that. All I can assume is there is a sensor fault not correctly informing the System of the correct temp or there is a duct/vent issue. It should start by directing the warm air up to the screen to gently warm then after a period of time switch the vents to the cabin. HTH Julian 110 County Station Wagon V8 Freelander Sport Td4 Discovery 4 XS TDV6 Defender X 110 P400 |
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7th May 2021 10:49am |
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| Julep Member Since: 07 Nov 2020 Location: Jersey Posts: 25
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I guess I should also comment that mine is an MY20 and now 'an old model' so things may have changed.
To note from Tim comment, mine was cheaper..?!!? But still looked nothing like the 'Remote control' pictured.. Click image to enlarge I am just trying to work out how to upload apps to mine though...  110 County Station Wagon V8
Freelander Sport Td4 Discovery 4 XS TDV6 Defender X 110 P400 |
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7th May 2021 11:53am |
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