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Smyles_

Member Since: 25 Aug 2018
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 517

Non-A/C Climate Control

Hi guys,

So I've moved from a TD5 to a Non-A/C 2.4 Tdci and I was messing about with the climate controls yesterday right before I drove back into the workshop. To my surprise the lower slider (highlighted) wouldn't budge from what I remember was the far right position.

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My question is, is it broken? I'm gonna hazard a guess and say yes, although I never had a chance to ask the mechanics.

Also, what differences is there between the A/C and non-A/C spec'd pumas? As far as I'm aware there's no difference with the number of vents?

Cheers

Stuart

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11th Apr 2021 8:01pm

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

Yes, it's broken, unfortunately. All that lever does is change from incoming fresh air to recirculating and isn't related to the A/C operation.

There are no physical differences in the cab between A/C and non-A/C models except for the button to turn A/C on. Externally, you'll have the flat fronted radiator grill instead of the protruding A/C one. Darren

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11th Apr 2021 8:40pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17448

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

The only difference between a/c and non-a/c is that there is an additional heat exchanger built into the heater box in the dash on the a/c models, together with the refrigerant system etc needed to support it. The air passages and control flaps are exactly the same.

As noted above, if the slider is stuck it is probably an indication that the slider control unit has broken, which is a shame as it is absurdly expensive. The flap that it operates is above the passengers feet, so it might be worth checking that there isn't something physically stuck ion the mechanism before starting the dismantling process.

The heater controls on the Puma sadly do not exude quality and are rather prone to breakage.

11th Apr 2021 9:47pm

Smyles_

Member Since: 25 Aug 2018
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 517

Thank you both for answering that and the questions that I was going to follow up with.

Will be upgrading it down the line with A/C so good to know, cheers!

Stuart

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11th Apr 2021 10:16pm

Smyles_

Member Since: 25 Aug 2018
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 517

At £160 I'm certain I will be able to fix it! Stuart

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11th Apr 2021 10:46pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17448

Yes, it is an absurd price for a rather crappy plastic jobbie!

Just remember that with a/c you have yet more things to go wrong.

11th Apr 2021 10:54pm

CharlieDonuts

Member Since: 16 Jun 2019
Location: Illiers Combray
Posts: 133

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Galway Green

Mine was stuck for a long time but I kept fiddling with it and finally it came loose. I never really understood why you would want recycled air over fresh air ? Is it something to do with manure ?

12th Apr 2021 8:00am

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

I use it as a means to close off the intake, which otherwise seems to let a constant low level draft through. Can also help with warming up on a cold morning but not for too long as moisture tends to build up too. Darren

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12th Apr 2021 8:16am

Likeomg

Member Since: 29 Jun 2012
Location: Lake District / Newcastle
Posts: 2642

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey

Had something similar with mine,

luckily it had just got jammed? there's a cable like what I would describe a Mtb shift cable that comes out passenger side bulkhead under the bonnet, it looked like it'd been over rotated I manually pushed it back and it's worked ever since (2 years +)

12th Apr 2021 8:23am

macfrank

Member Since: 05 Nov 2015
Location: somewhere in the north
Posts: 1081

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

Quote:
there's a cable like what I would describe a Mtb shift cable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowden_cable

13th Apr 2021 5:26pm

JR

Member Since: 07 Dec 2012
Location: Auchtermuchty
Posts: 532

1984 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Coniston Green

We had that problem on our 2010 Tdci, luckily JLR's warranty fitted a new heater unit! This was back in 2013, though!

21st Apr 2021 8:53pm

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