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lohr500

Member Since: 14 Sep 2014
Location: Skipton
Posts: 1316

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Hwalker164 wrote:
Seriously does JLR have any brand awareness or market understanding , what is the gap in the market that is being filled by a 130 inch defender with an even more premium price than current models. There is no demand in this sector that is why nobody builds a similar vehicle in the market. To build something like this for USA market will mean you will be up against the might of the North American truck market and the reliability factor that plagues LandRover in north america will mean no large uptake.

I could see the 130 7/8 seater being a good replacement for D5. Hopefully there will be enough seating space for taller kids or adults to make use of the rear set of seats. With the range of options available on Defender, it should be possible to specify a version that matches the trim levels available on D5.

With lockdown, we haven't been able to make many journeys with my parents, but the one thing I do miss after selling the old Defender 110 XS is the 7 seats. It was handy for all six of us to go out together in one vehicle . I know we could squeeze six into a new 110, either with the third front seat option, or the optional third row seating, but both are flawed in my opinion for space and comfort. If JLR have designed the interior well, the 130 should make a great family bus. Especially if they ft it with a two piece drop down/lift up tailgate.

8th Mar 2021 8:58am

SN

Member Since: 29 Jun 2007
Location: SK6
Posts: 729

130 with 5/6 seats will be the right form factor to take on the premium pickup trucks (which generally come with canopies)

Coming from this genre, the tub+canopy space was cavernous but not that good with long stuff which had to hang out the back. Folding down row 2 seats in a 130 will be an improvement on that because it will have internal capacity for length too.

And if the 130 comes with a clamshell rather than a rear door then you can still hang stuff out of the back too! Win/win!

Clearly down the track they're not going to get second lives with the unruly members of society in africa/middle-east as gun ships like the Hilux but nevertheless still a capable platform. Steve N | 21MY Defender

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8th Mar 2021 9:15am

DSL

Member Since: 20 Aug 2007
Location: Wandering the wasteland.
Posts: 837

I.e. good for collecting wood for the log burner.

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8th Mar 2021 9:24am

SN

Member Since: 29 Jun 2007
Location: SK6
Posts: 729

I'm not going to spoil this thread with random pictures of sh*t in the back of my pickup truck but all I'll say Derek you're barely trying with that photo, good as it is!

But I will add this one, not my truck or actually even my photo, but do you remember passing this pickup Derek?

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8th Mar 2021 10:12am

DSL

Member Since: 20 Aug 2007
Location: Wandering the wasteland.
Posts: 837

Yep, remember those, happy days indeed.

Mind you that pickup is only playing at it cf some of the regular Tunisian cars waiting for the ferry in Marseille.

8th Mar 2021 11:09am

pdv

Member Since: 07 Feb 2014
Location: Asse
Posts: 26

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey

even better:

8th Mar 2021 12:03pm

DSL

Member Since: 20 Aug 2007
Location: Wandering the wasteland.
Posts: 837

At last a decent use for an RRS!!

8th Mar 2021 12:34pm

Scrumps

Member Since: 24 Feb 2021
Location: Somerset
Posts: 108

Hi,

Yup - camel in a truck - been there!

Even worse, we were sticking to the limit and got overtaken by them!!

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Scrumps 90 D250 HSE Tasman Blue
24MY L461 RRS Verasine Blue
05 TD5 90 CSW Cairns Blue
1967 MGB BRG
1944 Willy’s MB OD green
1942 Willy’s MB OD green

8th Mar 2021 1:56pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3287

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

Hwalker164 wrote:
Seriously does JLR have any brand awareness or market understanding , what is the gap in the market that is being filled by a 130 inch defender with an even more premium price than current models. There is no demand in this sector that is why nobody builds a similar vehicle in the market. To build something like this for USA market will mean you will be up against the might of the North American truck market and the reliability factor that plagues LandRover in north america will mean no large uptake.

https://uk.motor1.com/news/492765/land-rov...confirmed/
Some excerpts:

Quote:
Company executives have now officially confirmed a three-row derivative is in the pipeline and will be on sale within the next 18 months. Known as the Defender 130, the more spacious SUV "will hit a sweet spot in North America, China and also the Middle East, which we're not yet touching," according to Chief Financial Officer Adrian Mardell.

Quote:
Jaguar Land Rover's design boss Gerry McGovern hints there's more to come as the company is "looking at what we can do with that brand because with relatively small investment we can increase its appeal. I'm absolutely convinced Defender will become a power brand in itself."

Quote:
JLR's recently announced "Reimagine" strategy will turn Jaguar into an EV brand from 2025, but there are also plans to electrify Land Rover. No fewer than six purely electric vehicles are planned for the Range Rover, Discovery, and Defender families, with the first zero-emissions model scheduled for 2024. It's unclear when exactly the Defender will lose its combustion engine, but it will happen within the next five years.

WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.

8th Mar 2021 4:08pm

Philip

Member Since: 09 Mar 2018
Location: England
Posts: 510

Large three-row SUVs are a big deal in the US.

8th Mar 2021 4:23pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3287

Yep, the Defender 130 is the perfect soccer mom car. It'll sell like hot gluten free brownies. WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.

8th Mar 2021 4:27pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

I listened again to the Investor day, and the quote on the time line was not 18 months but "12 to 18 months", so, although late, it may be sooner than later.

8th Mar 2021 5:35pm

RDR

Member Since: 27 Apr 2018
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 592

I wonder if we will start seeing mules on the road at some point. 12-18months is tricky for me about to order another D5 for September but I could bail on the order and tell them to keep the deposit.

A 130 with tailgate would make up for the monumental cockup that they made with the D5 vs D3/4. If I could get a decent spec HSE 130 for say £75k they would sell at least one in the uk - would be the perfect car for the dogs as per the D3 ours don't fit in a 110 and are a bit snug in the D5. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten

8th Mar 2021 8:10pm

AndrewS

Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3707

2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red

Is the 130 going to be available in the UK? 130's have feeling's as well you know

8th Mar 2021 8:58pm

RDR

Member Since: 27 Apr 2018
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 592

I thought I had read it wasn't but last I spoke to my dealer he was adamant it would be available in the UK so who knows, I hope so though. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten

8th Mar 2021 9:02pm

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