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Defendit..



Member Since: 09 Aug 2020
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This was a common problem by the first batch of New Defenders, experienced it by myself during testdrive
Problem should have been solved. No Mud flaps for my 90.!
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P300s MY21 Keswick Green on air, adv.+ offroad pack, DRL+fog, Dinamica Suedecloth + Ebony headliner/Cross Beam- Many Mods..
Post #887258 23rd Feb 2021 10:15am
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Digger2000



Member Since: 19 Sep 2020
Location: Newcastle
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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Other HT Tonga Green
Probably that for the brakes good find Thumbs Up but the 2WD warning light is a concern seems to happen when going over rough uneven road surfaces like potholes.
Post #887260 23rd Feb 2021 10:18am
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Digger2000



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Defendit.. wrote:
This was a common problem by the first batch of New Defenders, experienced it by myself during testdrive
Problem should have been solved.


Hopefully it can be fixed 🤞🏻
Post #887261 23rd Feb 2021 10:20am
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Digger2000



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Other HT Tonga Green

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Just been out for a drive and again no warnings on start of ignition but I drove over the same patch of pot holed road that brought up the warning ⚠️ sign last time and the same warning came up literally seconds after. I then drove home and inspected the vehicle that’s when I noticed something is leaking (see red circle in photo above, blue arrow is front of vehicle) under the car possibly from the the new clutch transfer case that acts like a differential for the new torque on demand AWD system that replaced the central differential on the MY20 vehicles (see below).


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Im no mechanic so I haven’t got a clue if this is something major or not but the vehicle as it stands does not work in 4WD or AWD because as soon as the car hits a slightly rough terrain it is triggering the warning sensor to cut power to the front wheels.
Post #887297 23rd Feb 2021 3:13pm
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familymad



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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
Appalled once again. The world would be up in arms if a Toyota LC or Merc G wagon did this.

We just shrug and say “well you did buy a new LR”... 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
Post #887347 23rd Feb 2021 7:51pm
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Philip



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They all go wrong, the new G Class has been recalled for various things - diff issues, brakes, wiring etc.
Post #887377 23rd Feb 2021 10:01pm
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Digger2000



Member Since: 19 Sep 2020
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I must of hit the jackpot because looks like I have all 3 of them faults Rolling with laughter
Post #887380 23rd Feb 2021 10:13pm
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blackwolf



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Oil leaks are a part of the Defender heritage! Rolling with laughter
Post #887390 23rd Feb 2021 10:56pm
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TomekW



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Digger2000, different question, what are the tyres on your car? they look interesting 2021 Defender 90 D250
1998 TUL
1997 TUM FFR
2003 Defender 110SW Td5
1985 ExMOD 110 ST 3.9 V8
1971 Series IIa Lightweight
Post #887399 24th Feb 2021 6:26am
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Supacat



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Philip wrote:
They all go wrong, the new G Class has been recalled for various things - diff issues, brakes, wiring etc.


Recalls are never a bad thing ~ if only JLR would embrace them. Instead, they fight them, pretend the issues don't exist and if absolutely necessary issue, quite literally at times, sticking plasters ~ double sided tape, felt pads and tie wraps...
Post #887404 24th Feb 2021 7:05am
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Supacat



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Digger2000 wrote:

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I noticed something is leaking (see red circle in photo above, blue arrow is front of vehicle) under the car possibly from the the new clutch transfer case that acts like a differential for the new torque on demand AWD system that replaced the central differential on the MY20 vehicles (see below).


Can you examine that and see if it's water, coolant, oil. What colour is it? Blot it onto some white kitchen towel.

There's been a recent TSB for Velars only with AWD:

SITUATION:
A transmission fluid leak may be seen coming from below the vehicle. There may also be a lack of acceleration and/or a 'juddering' from the vehicle while driving. A transmission warning message may also be displayed on the Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC). Upon further diagnosis, the fluid may be found leaking from the transmission fluid cooler pipes.
CAUSE:
Excessive vibration transmitted through the transmission fluid cooler pipes while the engine is running, causing the weld joints to fracture.
ACTION:
Follow the instructions below.
Post #887406 24th Feb 2021 7:09am
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Digger2000



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Could be that supacat. I will check the underneath ASAP. What were the actions?
Post #887454 24th Feb 2021 11:58am
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Supacat



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New pipes and what could be new/revised brackets.
Post #887464 24th Feb 2021 12:35pm
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Digger2000



Member Since: 19 Sep 2020
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Supacat wrote:
Digger2000 wrote:

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I noticed something is leaking (see red circle in photo above, blue arrow is front of vehicle) under the car possibly from the the new clutch transfer case that acts like a differential for the new torque on demand AWD system that replaced the central differential on the MY20 vehicles (see below).


Can you examine that and see if it's water, coolant, oil. What colour is it? Blot it onto some white kitchen towel.

There's been a recent TSB for Velars only with AWD:

SITUATION:
A transmission fluid leak may be seen coming from below the vehicle. There may also be a lack of acceleration and/or a 'juddering' from the vehicle while driving. A transmission warning message may also be displayed on the Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC). Upon further diagnosis, the fluid may be found leaking from the transmission fluid cooler pipes.
CAUSE:
Excessive vibration transmitted through the transmission fluid cooler pipes while the engine is running, causing the weld joints to fracture.
ACTION:
Follow the instructions below.


The leak/liquid is clear

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Post #887474 24th Feb 2021 1:27pm
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DSL



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Water from the AC condenser?
Post #887476 24th Feb 2021 1:38pm
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