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| Gaz Member Since: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Midlands Posts: 29   
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Hi and welcome to the forum.If you look at the gear shift Topix at top of first page by Site admin Martin K,this shows in pics the gear shift assembly and the torx screws.Is the bite point too low now with a new clutch,is it dragging slighty,it may need adjusting,you can do this under the bonnet at the back of the clutch pedal.Good luck.
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5th Feb 2016 5:51pm |
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| PeterA Member Since: 04 Feb 2016 Location: Devon Posts: 9 
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Thanks for quick reply,
I have looked at the topic but it does not show the insides of the gear shift if you remove the 4 torx screws (not the transfer selector). Its these screws that the mechanic took out and then removed the selector stick. As for the clutch, yes the clutch release is lower than previously but there is no drag, I am slowly getting use to changing gear without the bias but if anyone else gets into drive it they will have problems, just ask my father in law! Good theft prevention  ?? |
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5th Feb 2016 6:08pm |
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| Rickydodah Member Since: 14 Jul 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 1091 |
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic29132.html
Have a look at this post as it gives you a good idea of how the linkages work. All I've ever done is selected third gear and installed gear stick in this position and tightened screws whilst it's in the third gear position. I started with nothing and still have most of it left! |
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5th Feb 2016 6:33pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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308-561 ALIGNER GBP £4.21 per unit
TO SET SELECTOR LEVER IN CORRECT POSITION ON ASSEMBLY https://jlrequipment.service-solutions.com...mVID=47640 |
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5th Feb 2016 11:00pm |
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| PeterA Member Since: 04 Feb 2016 Location: Devon Posts: 9
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Supacast,
Thanks for the post in regards to the alignment tool, I was wondering where I could get one after seeing it in the manual. Rickdodah, Unless I am missing something the link posted only shows the removal of the selector unit by loosening the four nuts and fitting two spaces, it does not show what lies below the gear selector stick secured by the 4 Torx screws. If you have removed just the stick are there any springs etc that I should look out for? |
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6th Feb 2016 8:50am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Go here and you can get the full workshop manual & parts catalogue downloaded and see the details for yourself:
https://onedrive.live.com/?id=4BC2D89C85C7...9C85C7C171 courtesy of our own dgardel |
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6th Feb 2016 10:07am |
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| Rickydodah Member Since: 14 Jul 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 1091 |
Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Relevant pages from wsm if they're of help, as far as I can recall under the four torx screws is a spring loaded plastic cage which fits around a ball on the lever. Whenever I've removed this all I've done is select third gear and held the lever in the third gear position when tightening the screws. I've never seen the special tool in operation but suspect all it does is hold the lever as I've said. Someone who has used it may be able to clarify, but certainly the trick is to be in third gear. I started with nothing and still have most of it left! |
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6th Feb 2016 11:39am |
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| PeterA Member Since: 04 Feb 2016 Location: Devon Posts: 9
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Hi everyone,
I have now had chance to look at the problem and removed the four torx screws and lifted the assembly out. Nothing un-toward found so put it back together only to find the problem still existed. However I slackened the torx screws and the gear lever moved into the correct position. It would seem that when the torx screws are tightened fully they cover clamps down on the ball assembly. Leaving them slackened of a fraction allows the lever to align with 3rd and 4th. I wondered if the mechanic has left out a gasket or spacer when re-assembling the unit? |
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23rd Mar 2016 5:19pm |
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| Rory2013puma Member Since: 08 Jan 2021 Location: Uk Posts: 3
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Hi, did you ever resolve this? I have just changed my clutch slave cylinder amongst other things and I have this exact problem. With the 4 torx screws slightly backed off everything feels as it should,with them tightened up the gear leaver doesn't spring back to the mid position making driving it a nightmare. Its so stiff that it's hard to tell the difference between selecting 1st and reverse.... it seems a shim or gasket would cure the issue but there wasn't one there before so must be a problem somewhere else? Any help?
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8th Jan 2021 10:24am |
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| PeterA Member Since: 04 Feb 2016 Location: Devon Posts: 9
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Hi,
Sorry I should have posted a result. Backing off the Torx head screws a little did allow the bias to return. I drove around for a month with them backed off. Then I tightened them back up and the bias was back. Don't know what was cured but all is well now. Hope this sorts you out as well I know what a bind it was selecting gears. No garage could advice me on the problem Peter |
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8th Jan 2021 11:45am |
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| llessur Member Since: 15 Nov 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 151
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That plastic cage can get crushed if the torx screws are tightened without the selector in to correct position. If this happens you get the symptoms you describe. A sure fire confirmation is if you then loosen the screws, the correct feeling returns. I suggest you examine the plastic cage if you experience this
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8th Jan 2021 1:37pm |
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| Rory2013puma Member Since: 08 Jan 2021 Location: Uk Posts: 3
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Thank you both. I will examine the cage again and be sure to assemble it with the gearbox in 3rd. I wasn't aware of this when I reinstalled it before, just dropped it in and gave it a test, was all good so tightened the screws.... at that stage in the slave/clutch replacement i was just keen to have the job finished so didn't pay it too much attention.
perhaps its damaged now - should really get a workshop manual! Thanks again. Will post any findings if they turn out to be in any way interesting. |
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8th Jan 2021 5:03pm |
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| tuli108 Member Since: 23 Oct 2020 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 1  
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sorry, just a sidekick from a new member. If you are struggling with the original selector parts, just think about conversion to slickshift. Mine is from 2015 and with 45tkm there was no real need, but result doubled the fun to drive the Landy. Breaking the plastic parts, wobbly gear-change, touching your coffee cup, rattling in 6th gear - this is over now. Changed everything in neutral position, was very easy. In addition, installed the power spring also, but effect on the 2015 model was minor.
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10th Jan 2021 7:57am |
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| simond Member Since: 15 Feb 2008 Location: Kent Posts: 26
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I have had the seized gear lever problem yesterday while replacing my clutch. Not a job I’d do again...
Anyway at 10pm I just had to put it all together in the cab, and the most difficult thing was the gear lever. After assembling and reassembling a few times I realised this 3rd gear thing is a red herring. What you have to do is take the plastic cup out of the gearbox itself, fit it around the steel ball on the very end of the gear selector. If you don’t do this the plastic gearlever mounting will rise up causing misalignment. So what is the deal with 3rd gear? You will find when the box is in 3rd the selector and the access hole line up easier, this makes keeping the plastic cage aligned around the metal ball easier as you lower it in. It would be really useful if the manuals told you to fit the plastic cage over the end of the metal ball, that’s two hours of my life gone. Simon D |
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10th Feb 2021 10:33am |
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