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| Digger2000 Member Since: 19 Sep 2020 Location: Newcastle Posts: 590   
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Yes I have also noticed this problem but apparently JLR have improved the quality of the fabric, that being said I have instructed the dealership to stain guard the seats as I’m not taking any chances. Picking my vehicle up tomorrow and the forecast is for rain do I’ll see just how good or bad they are on collection.
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26th Jan 2021 2:32pm |
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| SN Member Since: 29 Jun 2007 Location: SK6 Posts: 729 |
So its 27th today - do you have a photo update?
There's been some discussion on this in a New Defender FB group in relation to 21MY cars and potential changes in this area - the only thing definitively changed is on the X-Dynamic models not on the S/SE cloth/leather versions etc Steve N | 21MY Defender  | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history) |
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27th Jan 2021 12:47pm |
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| Leamreject Member Since: 19 Dec 2020 Location: Middle Earth - Leamington Spa Posts: 970  
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I spent 4 years detailing interiors on private jets, for Harrods, Tag & Signature, I specialised in all types of fabric, leather and silks etc. Although red wine and ink were the main problems, water marks were also quite a common problem.
If it’s just water, try cleaning the whole seat from start with just water and if left to dry naturally it should dry uniformly without the stain. If you have a wet vac you could use that to draw some the water out, but you would still need to do the whole seat for it to dry the same. On delicate fabrics don’t scrub them as you could damage the weave, but most car fabrics are quite robust. Hope this helps although it’s always a worry when you think you need to make it look worse to rectify it  Ride like you stole it!!
If I’m not on a bike it’s because only a 4x4 will do… 2011 2.4 Puma 90 HT |
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27th Jan 2021 1:00pm |
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| SN Member Since: 29 Jun 2007 Location: SK6 Posts: 729 |
 from my perspective I just want to find a low maintenance solution
so some pre-treatment which would enable a simple adhoc wipe regime is what I'm looking for. My last two vehicles (one LR) both had whole leather seats which took nothing more than a brush/hoover to keep ok, and the three previous (one also LR) were all cloth seats which also took hardly any looking after too (a wipe after a spill was about it) Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history) |
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27th Jan 2021 1:16pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4206 
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Related to what’s been said above, my friend is an upholstery cleaner and he suggested placing a wet towel on the whole of the affected seat for while then remove and allow to dry naturally. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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27th Jan 2021 1:27pm |
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| Leamreject Member Since: 19 Dec 2020 Location: Middle Earth - Leamington Spa Posts: 970
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Protection is better than cure....
You need some of this, shake spray and leave to dry.... great value and it works Obviously only apply to clean dry fabric, ideal on new or nearly new vehicles And if your unsure, watch YouTube for application instructions, you would not believe how easy it is... Click image to enlarge Ride like you stole it!! If I’m not on a bike it’s because only a 4x4 will do… 2011 2.4 Puma 90 HT |
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27th Jan 2021 1:40pm |
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| SN Member Since: 29 Jun 2007 Location: SK6 Posts: 729 |
^^^^ is the same stuff that dealers con attempt to sell as part of £400 a pop as 'protection package'
Nothing on Amazon but plenty of options on Ebay (looks like broken out from commercial sets) P.S. Only actually found one application video on YT - on an MG SUV (whatever that is!?) - and yes it looks dead easy Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history) |
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27th Jan 2021 3:59pm |
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| Leamreject Member Since: 19 Dec 2020 Location: Middle Earth - Leamington Spa Posts: 970
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SN sent you a PM
Ride like you stole it!!
If I’m not on a bike it’s because only a 4x4 will do… 2011 2.4 Puma 90 HT |
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27th Jan 2021 5:02pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2639 
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The problems only seem to be with the cloth parts of the half & half leather/cloth seats. Mine has the standard cloth only seats and I’ve had rain/snow and all sorts blowing in there with zero problems. And I presume the posh full leather ones are okay too.
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27th Jan 2021 5:48pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3391
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The full cloth ones seem a better quality, the 90 I looked at last year had them. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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27th Jan 2021 5:57pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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This is my driver’s seat (as I drive alone 99% of the time the others are still good)
It has been professionally cleaned at my expense now 3 times but this was after snow 2 weeks ago - the seat fabric is dry in this photo. I have also cleaned and dried the seat myself using a hairdryer on a low setting but even though the fabric is dry it remains stained. Now subject to a warranty claim as the dealership has also had an attempt to permanently remove the stains Click image to enlarge As you can see it’s only the fabric, the leather is untouched/stained Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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27th Jan 2021 7:08pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3391
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Yup definitely poor show, even the suede stuff on my Velar seats holds up better. I suppose they will have looked at this for 21MY?
 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue |
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27th Jan 2021 7:13pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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I read today that LR claims that the manufacturer of the fabric “applied the wrong proofing compound”. Sounds like buck passing to me! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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27th Jan 2021 7:44pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3391
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Standard LR response, it’s either the customers fault or suppliers fault. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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27th Jan 2021 7:51pm |
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