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Clemmo



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Re: My Ultimate Urban L663 Defender 110 P400HSE
W84IT wrote:
MFD: 08/2020
Exterior: Fugi White

Front windows tinted to match rear


Windows look fab against white...unfortunately completely illegal in UK Big Cry

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Post #879362 18th Jan 2021 6:27pm
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W84IT



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Really?! I didn't know that window tint was illegal in the UK. Is it just not permitted on the front windows? Ray
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Post #879438 18th Jan 2021 11:52pm
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SN



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You can only go so far on the front windows. Because sometime once in the past somewhere in the EU a cyclist/biker got knocked off their machine because allegedly the tint prevented the driver from seeing said cyclist/biker. All bollocks in my view! Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
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Supacat



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W84IT wrote:
Really?! I didn't know that window tint was illegal in the UK. Is it just not permitted on the front windows?


Did you know it was so in your home state?

It's not a lot different in the US, in principal, although it's a hotch potch by state:


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https://www.raynofilm.com/blog/automotive-...s-by-state

Amazing how some appear to doubt the evidence that's, quite literally, right before their eyes.

UK law is apparently:

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Police have roadside testing equipment:

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And if their social media sites are to believed, have given drivers the choice to peel tinting off right there and then or face prosecution.
Post #879455 19th Jan 2021 7:05am
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W84IT



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Yes, I'm aware of the tint levels by state here in the USA and of course I'm aware of it in my home state. However, it actually depends on the area of the state that you are in. The police don't make a big deal of it due to how it varies state by state across the country. It's definitely something that they don't make a big deal of here in the Southern California desert. You often see the police cars with dark tint on them because the summer heat is extreme here. Even if you run across an officer that does decide to write you a citation then you just have to remove the tint and pay a $25 fine. The officers here in California have way more important things to focus on than stop everyone they see with a tint violation. I'm sure it's like that in other states as well because whenever I visit Arizona or Texas, I see many cars with the windows almost totally blacked out with tint around 5-10 percent visibility. Ray
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Post #879547 19th Jan 2021 2:01pm
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Supacat



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You pulled some of the top 10 from the Big Book of Excuses there. Laughing

Aren't fines more if it's deemed an infraction?

Then you introduce comparative negligence to any accident...

I guess it could be considered OK if it saves you having to dig out a pair of dark sunglasses whilst driving in the middle of the night.
Post #879661 20th Jan 2021 7:32am
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SN



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And the dark sunglasses case completely blows away the point of restrictions on tint darkness n the first place.

The basic problem is that two wheeled vehicles of any type of propulsion are hard to see end on - the owners of them should be made more responsible for making themselves more visible FFS! Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
Post #879691 20th Jan 2021 10:57am
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Simon Audi



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Supacat wrote:
W84IT wrote:
Really?! I didn't know that window tint was illegal in the UK. Is it just not permitted on the front windows?


Did you know it was so in your home state?

It's not a lot different in the US, in principal, although it's a hotch potch by state:


Click image to enlarge


https://www.raynofilm.com/blog/automotive-...s-by-state

Amazing how some appear to doubt the evidence that's, quite literally, right before their eyes.

UK law is apparently:

Click image to enlarge


Police have roadside testing equipment:

Click image to enlarge


And if their social media sites are to believed, have given drivers the choice to peel tinting off right there and then or face prosecution.



Looks like Prince Andrew dressed up in Police Uniform..
Post #879692 20th Jan 2021 11:03am
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DSL



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Nah, she’s too old. Whistle
Post #879698 20th Jan 2021 11:28am
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mse



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I dont get why anyone would want to restrict their front light and therefore vision (and the same applies to lights where people frost them).

I want to see as much as i can and been seen as brightly as possible.

Its like dirty hi-vis! Mike
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Supacat



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SN wrote:
And the dark sunglasses case completely blows away the point of restrictions on tint darkness n the first place.


Actually quite the opposite, it's the basic reason. Sunglasses can be removed, tinted windows less so. I think the law is different for tinted visors, reflecting the same logic.

Can't you can have a car without headlights, but you are not allowed to drive at night?

Tint your windows and you should have the same restriction.
Post #879717 20th Jan 2021 1:11pm
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W84IT



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The tint that I have on my 2 front windows is high quality ceramic tint that's about 25% which matches the rear windows. The ceramic tint does a really good job of blocking the sun rays. It's really not that dark and I can see out of it well enough at night that it doesn't hinder my visibility. I understand that this is not common in the UK but it's very common here is the USA to see vehicles with even darker tint. The main reason that I have it is because of the extreme heat in the desert region that I live in. The summer heat is extreme hear and if you ever have a chance to visit then you will see for yourself why there are many vehicles with tint on their front windows...including police cars. Ray
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Post #879718 20th Jan 2021 1:11pm
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SN



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As it happens, my last Disco, I was told, had illegal tints on it. It was bought from a Land Rover Dealer at 12 months old... Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
Post #879722 20th Jan 2021 1:29pm
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W84IT



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SN, that's also true here in the USA...you often see vehicles sold from the LR Dealer that have tint on the front windows. However, they do charge you for it and I think you also have to sign a disclosure. Many customers request it so it's an easy way for the dealership to make a little extra money. Once again, the police don't make a big deal of it especially in areas that have extreme heat and the dealerships know this. For example, I have a next door neighbor and several other law enforcement officers within the gated community that I live in and all of their personal vehicles have tint on their front windows that's even darker than mine. Ray
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Post #879746 20th Jan 2021 3:45pm
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zilch



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the use of aftermarket Tint in Australia is common, not to try and make the car look cool Cool but
to actually protect the occupants against UV.. No point going with LR's privacy glass, only reaches the
B pillar and has very minimal UV protection.. LR dealers in OZ typically arrange for the ceramic tint to be
done prior to delivery, so you have UV protection from day one. yet another pommie bar steward down under

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