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LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
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Supacat wrote:

Rear cross member has a passing resemblance to one of the prototypes:

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That prototype is a very different animal. It's essentially a Range Rover chassis modified with a Series LR rear crossmember and various other odds and sods to accept Series LR body panels, which have been cut down (hacked, in this case) to suit. Darren

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8th Dec 2020 9:19am

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
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blackwolf wrote:
I believe that the grille panel is V8 since it has the starting handle hole. Was that present on the early 4-pots, I didn't think so?

As far as I can tell from a quick search of pictures, they all used the same panel regardless of engine type, certainly up to 1988. I'd guess they changed with the introduction of the 200tdi. Darren

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8th Dec 2020 9:51am

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3431

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black

This is from 1988 with 19J, all original. The 19J did not have the starting handle cog, not any handle support on the chassis.
(Ignore the junk in the background).

I think the starting handle hole was carried over to some 200tdi as well.

Click image to enlarge 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black

8th Dec 2020 10:32am

Slideywindows

Member Since: 09 Sep 2016
Location: North Essex
Posts: 1286

The starting handle hole did indeed last into Defender.

They probably kept a few front panels for the 2.5 petrol Defender but almost no-one ordered one, so they may have used the last few on some early 200Tdi's.

Despite the hole in the front panel, there is no starter dog or handle support on this early 2.5 petrol Defender.

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8th Dec 2020 5:08pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17480

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Interesting, thanks for the update on SH holes.

I miss starting handles! Many a time I've started my S1s with the handle and they're so useful for any maintenance activities that require the engine to be turned over.

8th Dec 2020 6:56pm

87110

Member Since: 14 Nov 2020
Location: Athens
Posts: 13

I know that all the series and early range rover had the hole in the bumper but I've never heard of anything after the 2.25 with a starting handle. If you look right into the hole on a 2.5 you see where the handle hook thing would be bolted in if it were a 2.25. Since the 2.5 was related to the 2.25 I assume that it would be easy to equip a 2.5 with a hand start system by just swapping the bolt that can be seen through the hole for that of a 2.25.

Edit: Yes, the 2.5 petrol didn't sell very well. It didn't have the fame of the 2.25 nor the power (and bragging rights) of the V8 so even though it was quite reliable and powerful enough to do almost anything the V8 could do, the two engines burned the same amount of fuel.

The handle hook thing in question is #503665 in the image.

25th Mar 2021 11:33am

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