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| Bows Member Since: 07 May 2012 Location: Wales Posts: 513   
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I don’t think the actual mileage is the issue, there’s no doubt that all land rovers are capable of extremely high mileage. The op was in relation to a particular Land Rover, and that vehicle is way overpriced considering it’s milage. 2006 TD5110 station wagon
1995 300Tdi 90 truck cab 1989 90 hard top with 200 tdi 1983 110 hard top 1983 110 Hi cap 1954 107 pick up |
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27th Jul 2019 5:45pm |
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| dwrights Member Since: 24 Feb 2013 Location: Nottingham Posts: 64 
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Quite like this. Comes with a roof top tent I think.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ad...amp;page=2 |
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27th Jul 2019 6:32pm |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4795 
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Just read the advert and I think the tent is standalone as it would be unusual I think to have a 4 berth rooftent but I maybe wrong.
Quite an unusual winch mount location too. 2015 HT XS 90 2008 SVX 90 2000 XS TD5 90 |
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27th Jul 2019 6:45pm |
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| dwrights Member Since: 24 Feb 2013 Location: Nottingham Posts: 64
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Yes I think you're right. Might be a bit cosy with four up there
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27th Jul 2019 6:49pm |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4795
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Could be a bit snug
 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90 2000 XS TD5 90 |
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27th Jul 2019 6:51pm |
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| Oldyellar Member Since: 04 Sep 2015 Location: Central Posts: 384  
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I e had transits with double that mileage not alot of miles these days, anyway if cheap worth a punt you can get a low mileage 2.2 out a transit for £1200 the still used them till 2017.
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27th Jul 2019 6:55pm |
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| Dreamweapon Member Since: 19 Dec 2016 Location: Hessische Odenwald Posts: 55 
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The whole point of the Defender as opposed to a modern car is that "generally" major components can be overhauled, so condition and regular maintenance is probably more important than mileage. There will be older models still on the road with a million plus miles under the wheels (probably on 2nd chassis, 3rd bulkhead etc) . I've seen 2.2 and 2.4 Transits for sale with 500,000 on the clock without mention of a replacement engine. Just make sure the price is realistic as some sellers are starting to get a bit overly optimistic especially with the Station Wagons. Irrespective of trim levels and fancy paint, it is still a Defender underneath. |
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31st Jul 2019 6:44pm |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4795
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Very well put dreamweapon
 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90 2000 XS TD5 90 |
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31st Jul 2019 7:49pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804  
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Depends on who the 'other three' are of course. Members of the England Front Row or three Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders 
Click image to enlarge Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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2nd Aug 2019 7:49am |
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| boxoftricks Member Since: 06 Feb 2019 Location: Home Counties Posts: 747 
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For me it is about balancing your ability/wallet against each one you view. By ability I meant your ability/skill to fix/change things, by wallet I mean how much you are willing to spend on someone else doing the work. I went for a 110 with just over 100k as it was structurally in such great condition. I knew I could change/update mechanical components as and when over a reasonable period of time. What I do not have was the time to be chasing rust and replacing rear cross members etc as I can’t weld. Also I went for one as original as possible so not having to correct work previous owners had tried to do.
Take your times as so many come into the market. |
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2nd Aug 2019 8:07am |
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| spam242 Member Since: 06 Aug 2016 Location: west sussex Posts: 73
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very helpful thread, i'm currently looking at a 2009 usw XS spec with premium upgrade seats, momo wheel and full sound deadening and carpet.. Its up for £14,000 but has 167,000 miles on the clock. i cant quite work out if its a good price or not as like someone else said, the prices of these are all over the place. I've seen one similar, albeit slightly nicer spec with 100,000 miles up for £20,000 and now i'm confused haha
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12th Aug 2019 1:51pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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I know it isn’t a hitech problem laden Puma Engined Defender but not all high or low miles vehicles need be avoided.
I bought an Approved Used 1996 90 County Hard Top back in 2001. It then had 54000 miles on the odo and a full service history. 9000 miles pa had mostly been racked up as a dog walking wagon on the east coast in lovely health giving salt laden air........... The car is now 23 years old and 92000 miles so even lower annual miles in my care however it has been meticulously serviced by well known local LR specialist Independents (GEMM and Lix Toll Motors, Killin) at no expense spared. The only mechanical issue it has “suffered” was a seized transfer box after I ran it for 100 miles with not a drop of oil in it after a seriously heavy off-road weekend when unknown to me I had landed heavily on a rock and put a 1/2p sized hole in the casing. it now averages 1200 miles a year, runs sweet as a nut and has been 100% reliable. 75% of the miles it has run since 2001 have been off-road and greenlaning in low ratio. In 2009 the chassis dissolved (I believe a well known problem with 1996 90’s) and was replaced by a lovely new galvanised one. So low miles aren’t necessarily a problem due to lack of use. Up to last year it was still running on its production line fitted battery but one frosty overnight on the drive was one more than it could cope with but hey 1 battery in 22 years isn’t a huge financial burden in my eyes. It has also had 1 replacement set of tyres and alloys in all that time - I have the original alloys with an almost unused (2000 miles max) BFG AT’s on them but now have been running since 2012 on a set of MTRs on Zu lightweight alloys. Other an annual service, filter and oil change it has needed nothing else since 2001 - tell a fib........ the car was originally specced in 1996 with a optional diesel cat, when that failed in 2002 I had its EGR’s blanked and the electronics removed. It was also converted to a Stationwagon in 2002, which other than the chassis was my best investment in it, it was not fitted with CSW rear seats though as I diidnt need luxury bucket Country SW fold up seats and put in benches and belts instead- full conversion cost was £700 then. Cheapest car to run that I have ever owned. I bet 2020 Defenders won’t get away with minimal servicing or such good reliability - military grade production or not! What matters ,high or low mileage, is how were they racked up and service history. One recurring problem I have had though has been failing dipped beam lamps on the offside light unit, solved by replacing the headlamps with LED units 2 years ago, driving at night is now possible too! Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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12th Aug 2019 3:38pm |
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| Adamloweire Member Since: 07 Nov 2020 Location: London Posts: 1
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Hi
I hope it’s ok to pick up this thread rather than starting a new one, I just want to get an opinion on the importance of mileage when buying a defender. The one I’m looking at is at the link below, it’s got 120k miles which feels like a lot but it’s a high spec and looks in good order. Any advice or pointers about what to look out for or what would be much appreciated as I’m thinking of going ahead and buying this one. Thanks adamloweire https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2...archad=New |
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7th Nov 2020 10:23pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372 
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I don't consider that high mileage at all, my 2007 Puma has done more that twice that and is just about run in.
That is fewer than 10k miles per year after all. Personally I'd rather buy a higher mileage vehicle than a low mileage vehicle, since short runs accelerate wear. |
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7th Nov 2020 11:06pm |
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