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| Digger2000 Member Since: 19 Sep 2020 Location: Newcastle Posts: 590   
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16th Oct 2020 11:29am |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3750
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I just watched that
I don't agree with the last comment, the only people who don't like the new defender are those people that haven't driven it.... I've driven it but still don't like it, or rather could not justify £73K that it cost in my trim choice. Having driven it off road I do completely agree with Mat its so easy.... It does feel like it would go anywhere you point it. You don't feel connected to the car though and it drove pretty much the same as a FFRR on the off road track we did. Almost everything you can just leave in auto and it does it. You cannot argue that the tech is doing well it seemed a fairly equal test and quite simple. The Old Defender even had new tyres so at least had a chance. Now how about the old shell on the new body  This was the one I drove.
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16th Oct 2020 12:47pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3641 
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old def traction must have been switched off (fuse removed) axle twister should not have stopped it being a 2014 DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,
I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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16th Oct 2020 1:06pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 
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I saw this too. [Sarcasm]came across as really fair and unbiased[/sarcasm] and definately intended to downplay the old vs new. As others have said, they must have deactivated the TC.
About the "the only people who don't like it are those who haven't driven it", well first off who has driven every, or even most cars on the road to get a "fair" opinion? Secondly, is it just about the drive? So looks, styling etc are not factors? Beauty is subjective. We don't all fancy the same women, why do we have to like the same cars? It's not a case of right or wrong, its personal opinion. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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16th Oct 2020 1:32pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2636  
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It’s all meaningless unless someone can emulate the Amazonian tracks during the late 80’s Camel Trophy or we see it compete in the Rain Forest Challenge, which let’s face it, it would never happen.
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16th Oct 2020 2:12pm |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347 
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All these tests are boring doing them unladen.
Strap its full payload into it then do it, I bet that would how some real differences Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197
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16th Oct 2020 2:25pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17378 
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Let's see how it copes with a snowplough on the front and a cherry-picker in the back.
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16th Oct 2020 2:56pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2754
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Ouch not very sympathetic driving there! Someone needs to brief him on “slow as possible, fast as necessary”... and yes, weird that the Puma seemed to have TC disabled. Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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16th Oct 2020 3:40pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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As an owner of both old and new they are both very good at what they are designed to do. There are some things that one might have an advantage over the other but then there is also something else to balance it out. Like 99.999999% of buyers I don’t care a fig that I cannot fit a cherry picker or a snow plough to my new one, I wouldn’t want either on my 1996 90 either, I’d rent the cherry picker or a tractor for the one day a year I might need them. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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16th Oct 2020 3:54pm |
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| MrEleven Member Since: 15 May 2020 Location: Glasgow Posts: 112 
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The old tin can really does look out of date now
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16th Oct 2020 4:11pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638  
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Was it not a case of it being optional in the UK perhaps? -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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17th Oct 2020 5:51am |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3287 
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Funny you say that. While looking at that photo my first thought was that the new one would date very badly. WARNING. This post may contain sarcasm. |
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17th Oct 2020 6:08am |
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| Joe the Plumber Member Since: 18 Dec 2013 Location: Midlands Posts: 907 
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It would be a rum old do if a brand new vehicle that has had millions of pounds and countless hours of work put into it was beaten in a test by one that has its origins in something from 1948.
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17th Oct 2020 6:19am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I thought quite the opposite. Tin can or plastic bucket, everyone can choose. The issue with TC was also very strange; but I struggled to see the point of the 1st test, the old Defender seemed to have the edge over the first half of the hill and some of the shots appeared to show the old Defender winning: Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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17th Oct 2020 6:27am |
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