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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645   
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Yeah, this is also a PITA for me, but at least it keeps you in the correct setting. --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged 
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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25th Sep 2020 6:22am |
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| umbertob Member Since: 21 Jun 2020 Location: Altadena, CA Posts: 133 
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That's something they could probably correct with an online update if enough of us complain, like adding a "Remember last Terrain Response setting" on/off slider thingie in one of the settings menus. I gather it doesn't default the suspensions back down to normal height if you are in off-road height and turn the engine off and back on, because that would really suck? Have yet to take mine off-road to test it.
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25th Sep 2020 7:53am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Mine stays up at off road height on switch off - I’ve forgotten a couple of times and exited almost on my face because the drop is considerable and I don’t have the side steps. One thing, if the auto stop/start activates the setting in use in the TR is not reset in my car. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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25th Sep 2020 7:58am |
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| umbertob Member Since: 21 Jun 2020 Location: Altadena, CA Posts: 133
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Someone from the infotainment and UI development team at JLR replied on FB to my query about the above issue (the TR always defaulting back to Comfort mode after an ignition cycle.) It's an emissions testing requirement (not sure in which country - probably more than one.) The rules mandate that a vehicle always has to start in the same conditions used for such tests. So, there. It's something we'll have to learn to live with.
Guess we should probably thank Volkswagen for that one?  |
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25th Sep 2020 9:20pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645
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what a major PITA!
One thing we did notice during Thursday's outing, was that unlike the RRS, when in Rock Crawl mode the ND locks the rear diff completely - we could see this when turning on a flat surface and the rear tyres were scrabbling, whereas on my RRS, it's pre-locked and turning on a flat surface is normal. -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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26th Sep 2020 7:31am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645
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One more thing that owners may want to experiment with and report back:
After experimenting more with the hill hold during the outing, we have found that in Comfort mode, the Hill Hold automatically brakes & holds the vehicle if we stop on a hill, *without having to touch the brakes*. However, when in any of the TR modes, it does NOT automatically hold the vehicle on a slope - you have to press the brake pedal and then press it again and then only will it hold the vehicle. -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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26th Sep 2020 8:03am |
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| G4R1 Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Barnet/Limassol Posts: 131 
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Interesting test drive:
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29th Sep 2020 5:28pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Done on the standard factory issue Pirelli All Season tyres too, not the off-road tyre option. Surprised how well they handled the sand and mud. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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29th Sep 2020 6:43pm |
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| Jerry Member Since: 13 Nov 2015 Location: Cardiff Posts: 199 
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^^^is that another 3 hour test drive?
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29th Sep 2020 7:25pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645
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ZA review at a local 4x4 trail, with an old 110 accompanying him.
I've done this trail once or twice, and it's NOT as easy as it looks, especially seeing that we've had torrential rains in the past few months & weeks. -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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8th Oct 2020 8:59am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Interesting that his D240 has a single tail pipe on the left, U.K. D240’s have twin pipes on the left and D200 has a single pipe each side of the back box. Is there no requirement for the DPF etc in the exhaust in ZA?
Click image to enlarge Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 8th Oct 2020 9:58am. Edited 1 time in total |
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8th Oct 2020 9:50am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645
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Not sure if the ZA spec has a DPF, but it definitely does not have AdBlue, maybe that's why? --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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8th Oct 2020 9:51am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3404 
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Both D200 and D240 have the tailpipes on one side. The petrols have one either side. Though I believe the new 3.0 have them either side.
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8th Oct 2020 8:03pm |
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| BogMonster Member Since: 05 Feb 2008 Location: Stanley Posts: 400  
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So in summary .... if you rag it like a drunk in a hire car with no regard for either the vehicle or the environment, it is surprising what you can get it through on road tyres.........  ---
2006 Defender 110 SW 300Tdi • 2011 Ford Ranger XLT crewcab • 2015 Defender 110 Station Wagon Utility TDCi |
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9th Oct 2020 9:37am |
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