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Buz1500



Member Since: 07 Jul 2020
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I’ve applied the fix to both the front doors and the rattle has stopped. Rears to be done tomorrow.
Post #856210 15th Sep 2020 7:06pm
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Tim in Scotland



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Just been doing the rattle fix to my remaining doors and found this behind the rear nearside passenger door seal - obviously JLR found something in the early days and applied a double sided sticky pad but one side isn’t sticking so it doesn’t do it’s job properly. It was only on one door. Maybe some stronger sticky is needed and a strip on all the doors too, but I’ve used silicone sealant as in the video on all the doors with the radiused plastic piece.
The was a lot of dust at the back of the front passenger door seal that needed to be cleaned off too - I’ve done a couple of drives recently on dry Sandy tracks that put up vast clouds of dust ( and yes it in Scotland not Australia or Arizona, we do sometimes get a week or so of sunny dry weather here!)


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 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #856643 18th Sep 2020 10:37am
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Disco_Mikey



Member Since: 16 Nov 2014
Location: Dundee
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Scotland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green
JLRTB02052 - Rear Doors Difficult To Open

JLRTB02054 - Loadspace Air Suspension Switch Operation Inverted

SSM74889 - distortion on Rear Mudflap part VPLEP0388 (Cause: Moulding process not optimised.)

SSM75038 - L663 20MY Tapping Wind Noise from A-Pillar Area

SSM75002 - Defender Rear Doors Secondary Door Seal Creases

SSM74962 - L663 Rear door seal touching to quarter glass

SSM74838 - L663 Roof Opening Panel One Touch Feature

SSM74825 - L663 Defender window run channel seals deformed/not seating correctly

SSM75003 -L663 Steering gear Warning light on Instrument Cluster (Action: Establish with the customer if the fault has occurred as a result of wading.
Clear the fault with an ignition cycle, clear DTCs.
Do not replace the gear for this fault.

Note: There will be a software update in November 2020 to fix the issue. )

SSM74988 - Defender (L663) 20MY Onwards - Clear DTC C055E-7A When ABS (AMBER) / DSC (AMBER) Lights Appear

SSM74874- New Defender L663: Brake noise (363mm 14.29` Discs) felt through the floor during braking

SSM74999 - L663 Rear HVAC panel not working as expected

SSM74940 - L663 Defender Wifi, Incontrol App, Telematics not found.

SSM74936 - L663 Defender False theft alert sent to customer

SSM74839 - L663 Defender: Pivi Pro Navigation Map Installation Issues

SSM74598 - AJ20-D4 Exhaust Gas Pressure Sensor Harness Connection Mismatch

SSM75004 - Low Coolant Warning Displayed on Instrument Cluster (Coolant on MAX Level)

SSM74938 - AJ20-P4 19MY High pitched noise from turbocharger and/or rattle from turbo actuator system.

SSM74894 - L663 Defender, Engine noise whilst accelerating or decelerating: I6 3.0l Petrol versions



So were off to a good start already Thumbs Up Rolling with laughter
Post #856648 18th Sep 2020 11:45am
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Tim in Scotland



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Thanks Mikey- no wonder there are a few delays getting a slot in the workshop with all those issues to be looked at........... my one goes in for another attempt to cure the water ingress through the rear passenger door next week - this will be the third attempt to fix it........... might have to consider a rejection if the leak isn’t fixed this time as there is obviously a hidden hole somewhere that wasn’t sealed on the production line. I was told it might be because of the roof rails last visit but the roof rails were fitted in August, after the leak was reported in June.......... otherwise it’s a great car and I love driving it but if it’s going to leak for the rest of its life that isn’t something I relish on such an expensive vehicle. If I want to get wet while driving I’ll use my old 90 instead but I don’t expect a car designed in the 21st century to leak. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #856649 18th Sep 2020 11:57am
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LRSpain004



Member Since: 30 Jun 2020
Location: Elche
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Spain 
Disco_Mikey wrote:
JLRTB02052 - Rear Doors Difficult To Open

JLRTB02054 - Loadspace Air Suspension Switch Operation Inverted

SSM74889 - distortion on Rear Mudflap part VPLEP0388 (Cause: Moulding process not optimised.)

SSM75038 - L663 20MY Tapping Wind Noise from A-Pillar Area

SSM75002 - Defender Rear Doors Secondary Door Seal Creases

SSM74962 - L663 Rear door seal touching to quarter glass

SSM74838 - L663 Roof Opening Panel One Touch Feature

SSM74825 - L663 Defender window run channel seals deformed/not seating correctly

SSM75003 -L663 Steering gear Warning light on Instrument Cluster (Action: Establish with the customer if the fault has occurred as a result of wading.
Clear the fault with an ignition cycle, clear DTCs.
Do not replace the gear for this fault.

Note: There will be a software update in November 2020 to fix the issue. )

SSM74988 - Defender (L663) 20MY Onwards - Clear DTC C055E-7A When ABS (AMBER) / DSC (AMBER) Lights Appear

SSM74874- New Defender L663: Brake noise (363mm 14.29` Discs) felt through the floor during braking

SSM74999 - L663 Rear HVAC panel not working as expected

SSM74940 - L663 Defender Wifi, Incontrol App, Telematics not found.

SSM74936 - L663 Defender False theft alert sent to customer

SSM74839 - L663 Defender: Pivi Pro Navigation Map Installation Issues

SSM74598 - AJ20-D4 Exhaust Gas Pressure Sensor Harness Connection Mismatch

SSM75004 - Low Coolant Warning Displayed on Instrument Cluster (Coolant on MAX Level)

SSM74938 - AJ20-P4 19MY High pitched noise from turbocharger and/or rattle from turbo actuator system.

SSM74894 - L663 Defender, Engine noise whilst accelerating or decelerating: I6 3.0l Petrol versions



So were off to a good start already Thumbs Up Rolling with laughter




Rolling with laughter

I went into my local LR dealer here in Elche Spain, an they have a Tamar blue std looking 110 inside. all I can say is for 89,000 Euros, you are never going to sell more than 6 a year. LR have lost their minds.
Post #856672 18th Sep 2020 3:01pm
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defender_enthusiast



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J77 wrote:

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Hey, how did you get hold of this document? I would love to see a list of items so I can use it as part of my pickup checklist!
Post #857914 24th Sep 2020 5:08pm
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Tim in Scotland



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I collected mine from the dealers this morning after 3 days in the workshop and had a silent , rattle free trip home with no tapping on the front screen from the A Pillar trim, no rattles in the driver’s door and no rattles from the window frame rubbers (I fixed those ones myself).Hopefully also no more rain water ingress after replacement of the fixed glass section of the driver side rear passenger door glass. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #857932 24th Sep 2020 6:19pm
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J77



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defender_enthusiast wrote:
J77 wrote:

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Hey, how did you get hold of this document? I would love to see a list of items so I can use it as part of my pickup checklist!


I paid for a 1 hour subscription to topix, I think it was £25 to view the Defender only.
Post #857941 24th Sep 2020 6:41pm
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Tim in Scotland wrote:
I collected mine from the dealers this morning after 3 days in the workshop and had a silent , rattle free trip home with no tapping on the front screen from the A Pillar trim, no rattles in the driver’s door and no rattles from the window frame rubbers (I fixed those ones myself).Hopefully also no more rain water ingress after replacement of the fixed glass section of the driver side rear passenger door glass.


Good news. Fingers crossed there are no more issues.

How many visits/days has it spent at the dealers so far? WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.
Post #857980 24th Sep 2020 8:38pm
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defender_enthusiast



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Tim in Scotland wrote:
I tried the fix in that video on my driver’s door today...


Just curious - what video is this and are you able to share the link?

I’m picking up my first edition 110 tomorrow! Cannot wait!
Post #858072 25th Sep 2020 12:13pm
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Buz1500



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The link is on a previous page...
Post #858089 25th Sep 2020 2:38pm
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Tim in Scotland



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Here it is again. Hopefully your car is a recent enough build that they have now solved these issues. My car is a very early build with a VIN not much more than 1000 and I believe that the VINs are now up above 18000 (it’s mentioned in one of the posts by one of the USA members ) - also look out for distorted window seals on the rear passenger doors, water ingress on th dreary passenger doors (you will see it coming out of the door trim and lying on the arm rest - cure is a replacement fixed rear door window glass), rattles in the B pillar, misaligned signature square thing on the rear window and misaligned doors. The cars I’ve seen on showroom floors in the last couple of week haven’t had the misaligned signature square or doors not hung properly. The A pillar trim tapping on the screen shouldn’t happen now as the trim has been redesigned and only cars with in a certain VIN group need attention. Cure for the door rattles is in the video and there is a factory fix for the rattles in the B pillar but I don’t have any reference number for it - I suspect it’s either a piece of foam plastic or some stick tape to stop a wire vibrating.
 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #858090 25th Sep 2020 2:50pm
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Tim in Scotland



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Zed, since June 12th delivery 3 visits and 5 days in total in the workshop - while it was in for remedial work I also had roof rails and crossbars and the rear recovery eyes fitted but job times for those aren’t a working day. Biggest problem has been getting dates that the workshop has a slot available. When I was contacted to be told that the new A pillar trims had arrived they couldn’t take the car for 10 days then I couldn’t take it in the first available day so the gap stretched to 2 weeks.
The dealership I use is Pentland Stirling Land Rover, they aren’t the biggest outlet but they have a very large client base so are usually as busy as the big dealers in the south. They used to be one of the few family owned dealerships but the Morrison family sold out 2 years ago and while standards have remained as good as they were under family ownership, a lot of the great staff left along with the owning family which was a shame. It was great to be on first name terms with the directors, service manager and sales staff but apart from one salesman now I wouldn’t know who was the tea boy or the MD let along the service manager. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #858092 25th Sep 2020 3:07pm
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defender_enthusiast



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Tim in Scotland wrote:
Here it is again. Hopefully your car is a recent enough build that they have now solved these issues. My car is a very early build with a VIN not much more than 1000 and I believe that the VINs are now up above 18000 (it’s mentioned in one of the posts by one of the USA members ) - also look out for distorted window seals on the rear passenger doors, water ingress on th dreary passenger doors (you will see it coming out of the door trim and lying on the arm rest - cure is a replacement fixed rear door window glass), rattles in the B pillar, misaligned signature square thing on the rear window and misaligned doors. The cars I’ve seen on showroom floors in the last couple of week haven’t had the misaligned signature square or doors not hung properly. The A pillar trim tapping on the screen shouldn’t happen now as the trim has been redesigned and only cars with in a certain VIN group need attention. Cure for the door rattles is in the video and there is a factory fix for the rattles in the B pillar but I don’t have any reference number for it - I suspect it’s either a piece of foam plastic or some stick tape to stop a wire vibrating.


Thanks for this! Definitely stuff to look out for. My first edition has a relative low VIN I think around the ~1500 mark - this is a model that was in a showroom but not registered so not driven. So unfortunately I suspect it will suffer from a few of these issues. But good to hear they are resolved.

In terms of resolution, is it best practice to go to the sales person who sold me the vehicle or to go to a service centre directly and speak to them?
Post #858105 25th Sep 2020 4:17pm
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
At that VIN number I'd be asking the salesperson, before handing over any money, for a print out of all applicable service actions, etc and confirmation paperwork that the vehicle had had them all completed prior to you accepting it. They've had the time, why should you waste yours toing and froing to the dealership once you own it?
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