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markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2636 |
That is poor.
if the response from the dealer is poor, put it on YouTube. In regards to the battery warning, my wife's Velar does the same. i think that it is just over cautious due to all the electrical systems. When we had the Evoque with a TV, that was equally pointless as you had to keep the engine running to watch it if killing time (not driving). If i am in the car and waiting for the missus i just listen to music on my phone and turn the volume up. in my TD5 i just keep the stereo on. |
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19th Sep 2020 8:26pm |
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J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3395 |
Can’t say I’ve ever had issues with the aluminium bodywork on any LR.
I think most LRs use the fibre wheel arch liners, they do look like carpet when wet but stay in shape and dry out fine. The battery issue is, as said, probably LRs over sensitive system. |
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19th Sep 2020 8:37pm |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 |
I get the battery warning if I listen to the radio without the engine running, gave done in all my LR cars since my 2007 RRS. I’ve been told that the problem is caused by the amp in the audio system. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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19th Sep 2020 8:52pm |
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Jagalong Member Since: 19 Sep 2020 Location: Kent Posts: 4 |
I understand the front fenders are steel, as are the doors and the rear door. Don't know about the hood. Surprised to hear about the dents. It would have needed a high level of impact to leave a permanent impression. A number of new defenders have had their batteries replaced, which solved a lot of electrical glitches. Maybe something to do with supplies not being kept in a properly charged state during lockdown. Dealers need to up their game on pre delivery inspections and make sure all software is up to date and batteries are maintaining full voltage. New car, new factory, production stopped just as it was getting underway then restarted several months later is probably not the best start in life for any vehicle. Fully understand the frustration though when you have made such a major purchase and then get problems. Hope you get it sorted out without too much difficulty.
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19th Sep 2020 10:47pm |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 |
Have JLR bought in the parts rather than make in house before? |
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20th Sep 2020 8:42am |
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CdnDefender Member Since: 19 Sep 2020 Location: Ontario Posts: 4 |
First, a good pic of her and our other Defender to keep some levity in this thread.
Click image to enlarge Second here are some dent shots. Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Our LR3 has sat in the same exact parking spot for 12 summers with no damage. We picked this car up August 6 and so this all happened over the course of 6 weeks parked outside. Last edited by CdnDefender on 20th Sep 2020 12:48pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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20th Sep 2020 12:25pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17382 |
Wow, reminds me of hail stone damage.
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20th Sep 2020 12:41pm |
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ChasingOurTrunks Member Since: 19 Aug 2020 Location: Canada Posts: 89 |
I was thinking the same thing as black wolf -- any chance you've had a hail storm come through overnight? A friend had a similar experience but by morning it was +20 and sunny so he didn't realize there was a bit of hail in the night as it had all melted and dried, and his car was similarly dented.
As for the other problems, that's pretty poor form -- I would echo what another poster said about the battery maybe needing a swap. In my jeep, which was relatively simple compared to this thing, a voltage variation beyond a certain point would make all sorts of strange things happen -- dashboard would Christmas tree, engine would intermittently start and stop, and more. All that needed doing was a new battery as the one that came with was left to sit too long on the dealer's lot. I will be interested in your Dealer's response -- so far, I've not had the best experience with JLR dealerships and I'm in the process of buying the thing, which is when you'd think they would be the most attentive! |
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21st Sep 2020 10:58pm |
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umbertob Member Since: 21 Jun 2020 Location: Altadena, CA Posts: 133 |
Not that it matters much in the grand scheme of things, but I am 99% sure that # 6 above is disabled in North America, just as it was on my LR4 (and new Defender I received 2 weeks ago.) The option to enable global close can be checked in the settings, which got me excited for a minute, but won't work here for liability reasons IIRC, only global open works (I was eventually able to enable global close on the LR4 with the IIDTool diagnostic tool, which will hopefully add support for the new Defender soon.) Auto high beams are easy to accidentally disable by momentarily pushing the LH lever towards the manual high beams and then returning it to low beams. Does the icon in your instrument cluster look white instead of green, with "AUTO" written under the icon? That indicates AHBA is enabled. If it doesn't say AUTO and the icon is green, push and pull the lever again to re-enable. In my experience with my previous car (the LR4 had it), it's pretty accurate but can occasionally be tricked by reflections or light sources that the camera mistakes for incoming cars, so it won't always fire up the high beams when you expect it to. It would have been nice to get the more advanced Adaptive matrix-type auto high beams, but again we don't get that system here in North America, surely for some other DOT regulations Land Rover could not comply with. Don't know what to tell you about the speed limit / Do Not Pass signs camera, it's definitely not foolproof and sometimes will mistakenly read lower speed limits of crossing side streets (or the "While Children Are Present" 25 mph speed limit near a school, even during a pandemic when all children are home 24/7, lol.) That's why the LIM speed limiter is probably a bad idea and I'll never use it, or someone may rear end me one day as the car slows down for no reason. Even the Adaptive Cruise Control / Queue Assist radar thingie, while convenient on long tips, is far from perfect and can be tricked in a variety of ways by cars cutting in front of you, sharp turns, traffic cones, strategically positioned signage, etc. |
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22nd Sep 2020 4:30am |
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CdnDefender Member Since: 19 Sep 2020 Location: Ontario Posts: 4 |
Possible but unlikely. You can't see from the images but the dents are elongated in one direction, short in the other, like the length of a branch. Also, there are places where the dents are in a line, so two dents, with the same orientation of the long side, that are a couple inches apart from each other. If you were to connect them with a line, they would match up perfectly. There are only four panels damaged. The front fenders, the hood, the filler panel between the windshield and the main roof. The main roof is pristine by the way, no damage at all, and we ordered it without a sunroof option so it's a big piece of sheet metal, clearly of a different gauge. As well, there was no damage on our other car parked beside it, a Focus RS. Finally, I've considered vandalism but it makes no sense. The damage is only on the horizontal panels, there was a bright blue car parked right next to it to attract attention, and within the immediate vicinity one neighbor has 3 BMW's, another a new Porsche Macan, and yet another an Alfa Romeo Stelvio. Anyways, my sales person forwarded my full letter to the GM of the dealership and the Service Manager and I so far have heard nothing back whatsoever . . . |
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22nd Sep 2020 4:48pm |
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shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347 |
Sounds about right Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197 Self confessed mileage hunter |
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23rd Sep 2020 3:07pm |
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Defdan Member Since: 13 Sep 2020 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 14 |
I have had the battery warning issue. The car has been back to the dealer 3 times (8 days) and is going back again next week. The dealer can't figure out the issue and said they have to get in touch with experts at LR. Another user with the issue said a new battery fixed it, but I hope the dealer considered that possibility early on. Also had the blank screen, but a software update seems to have fixed that. Otherwise collision warning no working, USB port replaced, door mirror not fitted properly, locking wheel nut key missing, wrapping left on some interior panels. |
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27th Sep 2020 1:38pm |
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defender_enthusiast Member Since: 22 Sep 2020 Location: London Posts: 51 |
Hey all,
Obviously with it raining this weekend I saw that as I was opening any of the doors water dropping down from the doors seals and landing on the seats. Looks like it has already started staining / leaving water marks on the fabric part of the seat: Click image to enlarge Any ideas on how to prevent this? is this a common issue - is my car missing some sort of water run off? |
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4th Oct 2020 5:59pm |
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J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3395 |
They all do that, poor design. You can get various protective coatings applied by your local detailer.
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4th Oct 2020 6:04pm |
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