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12th Sep 2020 2:42pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3677
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Cheers. It’s in for service in a couple of weeks so I’ll see what they say. Clutch is 75k miles old and a bit rattly now. This one might be expensive!
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12th Sep 2020 3:29pm |
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| CallumB Member Since: 22 Sep 2018 Location: Norfolk Posts: 87 
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My local Land Rover specialist here in North Norfolk (D&C Roberts) charged me £380+VAT to fit a new crank seal and a new clutch kit (which I supplied). I didn't think that was too bad, although I appreciate that there's loads of owners here that would think it's a relatively easy bit of DIY but I wasn't brave enough. Make sure whoever does it put some extra silicon on the crank seal bolts or it'll still weep without!
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17th Sep 2020 3:40pm |
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| MJN110 Member Since: 18 May 2015 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 380 
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Co1 where do you take yours for a service in North Yorks? 2016 Defender Landmark 90
2005 Defender CSW TD5 90XS |
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18th Sep 2020 4:38am |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3677
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Madison 4x4 near Thirsk. Very food and local to work so ideal. Black paw 4x4 just south of York are good as well.
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18th Sep 2020 4:55am |
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| Fat Cog Member Since: 19 Mar 2012 Location: Oxfordshire & Devon Posts: 502 
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My daughter has a Freelander 2 (great car in my opinion) & her mechanic added a seal softener to stop such an oil leak, I'd never heard of seal softener but he's a really good very experienced mechanic & unbelievably it worked a treat. What he told me was that the over the counter stuff was generally rubbish but the trade stuff was excellent. Not sure what the trade stuff is but this is an example.
https://www.forteuk.co.uk/product/seal-conditioner/ Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains |
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18th Sep 2020 7:34am |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3677
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I think that by the time you get to the seal to apply the softener the hard work is done, and you might as well just replace it?
Ignore that, just seen that you add it to the oil. Is that correct? |
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18th Sep 2020 1:00pm |
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| Fat Cog Member Since: 19 Mar 2012 Location: Oxfordshire & Devon Posts: 502
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I've got to be honest when he said he was going to use it my initial thoughts were 'what a load of rubbish' BUT after leaving it overnight the leak (which was worse than your picture) was fettled...it was one of those 'well I never' moment's! Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains
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18th Sep 2020 1:26pm |
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| Fat Cog Member Since: 19 Mar 2012 Location: Oxfordshire & Devon Posts: 502
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As I understand it, yes! Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains
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18th Sep 2020 1:39pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3677
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Right then, might be getting worse! Had it serviced a few weeks back and since then I’m seeing clean oil as per the pics. Still no tell takes on the drive, but it’s filthy so hard to tell!! You can now see runs of drips in the sump and droplets by the drain hole.
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21st Oct 2020 3:53pm |
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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 666  
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I had a similar leak when about 18months old - took LR a couple of attempts to cure it - think it related to the sump ladder gasket whatever that is!
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21st Oct 2020 4:26pm |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1845 
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TBH, I think it would pay you to get underneath with some degreaser, or even 'wonder wipes' or whatever to get the grime off that.
It does look like it's coming from the bellhousing drain, but perhaps it could also be coming from elsewhere - like the back of the sump - and a wee clean up would make that more obvious. Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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21st Oct 2020 4:29pm |
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| seriesonenut Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Essex Posts: 1211
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That's good advice, I had something similar and it turned out to be a weep from above tracking down. I degreased the whole engine then checked with torch after a long run and spotted the source. 2010 XS USW
1957 Series One 88 diesel 1958 Series One 88 4x2 |
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21st Oct 2020 4:40pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3677
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So, got underneath yesterday morning and degreased the area. Did 60 miles yesterday and checked again and there were 3 decent drops sat there, so not good news! The clutch is rattling and has done 75k so might as well do that while the seal gets done so booked in for both.
While the transfer box is off I’ll get the output shaft checked and replaced if it is worn, but the plan was to replace with genuine rather than uprated. The genuine one is two piece, which I know is where some people see accelerated wear, but the fact it is two piece in my eyes takes up any misalignment during install. The fact that it has lasted 75k suggests my alignment is good, no? Additionally I am concerned that fitting a 1 piece HD unit will transfer any possible misalignment somewhere else. Is that logic correct? |
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23rd Oct 2020 5:17am |
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