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| G4R1 Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Barnet/Limassol Posts: 131  
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Any thoughts on "Intelligent All-Wheel Drive"?
All the diesel engines will come with Intelligent All-Wheel Drive and permanent 4wd will be available on petrol engines only. I'm not sure if it's good news or bad. Also, it says that there are 2 new family packs, but not available to add to the build. |
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9th Sep 2020 10:06pm |
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| jsinclair Member Since: 11 Aug 2020 Location: Brisbane Posts: 46 
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Where are you seeing that?
Could it be a fuel saving thing? |
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9th Sep 2020 11:07pm |
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| G4R1 Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Barnet/Limassol Posts: 131
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It says in the press release: https://media.landrover.com/news/2020/09/l...-and-new-x
Permanent All Wheel Drive is standard on Land Rover Defender except for those fitted with the new D200, D250 and D300 6-cylinder engines. These engines feature Intelligent All Wheel Drive for greater fuel efficiency utilising Two Wheel Drive capability where appropriate. |
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9th Sep 2020 11:12pm |
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| jsinclair Member Since: 11 Aug 2020 Location: Brisbane Posts: 46
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Thank you.
Hope they explain exactly what that means. I've no idea if that is a step up, or a step down. I get the feeling it could have been needed to get the diesels past the emissions regs. I wonder if the same applies to the Range Rover Sport, where the P400 and new D300 are both available. |
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9th Sep 2020 11:24pm |
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| Hedgehog Member Since: 06 Sep 2020 Location: Frankonia Posts: 12 
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Ordered yesterday afternoon a mj 2021 six-cylinder diesel HSE in white / acorn.
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Defender HSE i6 D 7 seater in fuji white with acorn windsor leather Jeep Wrangler JKU Sahara Indian Summer - gone Disco 5 Luxury Aruba / Light Oyster- gone Discovery 4 - gone but not forgotten - Discovery 3 with some add ons - gone |
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10th Sep 2020 4:49am |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481  
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Wonder when the first dealer demo with the 6cyl will arrive? 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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10th Sep 2020 4:55am |
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| jsinclair Member Since: 11 Aug 2020 Location: Brisbane Posts: 46
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Have just noticed it looks like the D300 misses out on the Brembo front calipers, even on the X. Doesn't give you the option of fitting 18 inch wheels though, so perhaps the rear brakes are the same as those that come with the Brembos.
At least going by the configurator it seems only the P400 gets these. Just as likely the configurator is wrong though. |
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10th Sep 2020 7:51am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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The standard brakes are pretty sensitive and very powerful so you won’t get much more with Brembos I would imagine (except a lighter wallet and some stickers on the calipers ......) Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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10th Sep 2020 8:20am |
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| jsinclair Member Since: 11 Aug 2020 Location: Brisbane Posts: 46
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I know, more of a nice-to-have than anything.
If it definitely comes with those calipers then you should be able to spec 18s from the factory. |
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10th Sep 2020 8:32am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4209 
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I'm interested in the detail of the switch to intelligent all wheel drive on some models. Is there any loss in offroad capability and does it still have low range? Does it come with same control in the TR system? Rear diff lock still available? Etc.
It's undoubtedly been done for emissions reasons in my opinion. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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10th Sep 2020 8:34am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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I posted elsewhere that the system was launched in 2015 in the turbo petrol Evoque so this may be an update that allows it to work on permanent 4WD as opposed to AWD, in Evoque it disconnected the rear drive electro-mechanically above 28mph but could re-instate it in a claimed 1/300th of a second if wheel spillage was detected and put the car back into AWD/4WD mode, so basically it made the car 2WD above 28mph and the driver had no control over it. Cannot see why it would hinder off-road ability as you would have full 4WD back below 28mph or if the going got slippery.so far there haven’t been any reports of the system giving problems over on the BabyRR forum - I think it also became an option on the diesel Evoques in 2016. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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10th Sep 2020 8:47am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3395 
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“The new intelligent driveline system continually varies axle torque based on sensor data from the vehicle’s surroundings and driver inputs to distribute all torque to one axle or the other as required. This intelligent torque distribution system optimises the driveline for traction, on-road dynamics and driveline efficiency, resulting in improved fuel economy and reduced CO2 emissions – all without sacrificing any of Defender's inherent off-road capability.”
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10th Sep 2020 9:53am |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2645
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I’m going to switch my order to a 21MY so we’ll find out. In theory it shouldn’t affect off-road ability at all as the clutch pack just does the same thing as the centre diff and both are controlled by Terrain Response. Rear e-diff is still an option and low range etc. all still there.
It’s a shame to lose permanent four wheel drive as I like how vehicles with it drive on the road, however I am sure that LR’s system is clever enough to have it when it’s needed and taper it off when it’s not. One thing I’m particularly pleased about is that you can now option the full digital dash display on the base spec. Previously it was only available on S or above but now for £300 you can have it on the standard model. Well worth it as I really liked it on the one I test drive. |
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10th Sep 2020 10:51am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4209
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It’s unlikely to be related to the Evoque system. That’s transverse FWD setup with Haldex AWD as used in loads of hatchbacks and SUVs. I’d imagine it might be more similar to BMWs X drive which favours RWD most of the time. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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10th Sep 2020 11:48am |
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