J77 wrote:

It does look nice though I’d prefer a modern take on the Heritage Edition, Grasmere Green wrap, steel wheels.

It’s better than this monstrosity, it’s been reduced twice, was well over £60k now down to £58k.

zilch wrote:

J77 wrote:

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my preference would be for a full bar and winch with under body skid plates, as fitted to my RRS.
Designed to deflect the "hazard" or push it under rather than onto the bonnet and into the cabin
Be interesting to see what the after market companies bring out



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Seems odd that it's missing the lower protection loops seen on an earlier prototype, especially as the area behind contains radiators for various models.


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Seems odd that it's missing the lower protection loops seen on an earlier prototype, especially as the area behind contains radiators for various models.

trying to work out whether it has been designed to possibly meet their commitments to pedestrian safety
as well as provide a modicum of protection. Not sure if the LR bull bar (tube) has had real world
testing and can provide the level of protection to the vehicle and passengers, which means :

a), the front of the vehicle maintains integrity when there is a large Roo strike and b), will keep driving with
minimal damage..

I will wait it out and see what ARB, TJM and OL bring to market in terms of bull/winch bar in the next 12 months,
I suspect it will be anything between 30-40% of the current price I was given verbally by my dealer for the LR Bar
and Winch and the after market suppliers here will ensure it is specifically designed for local applications  yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport

Tim in Scotland wrote:

You still see bull bars on older ex4’s here Zilch, just you cannot buy a new car with one fitted, I believe there isn’t a problem with fitting one after you’ve driven out of the showroom. Not sure if there are any MOT requirements about having one fitted when you do an MOT..

Tim in Scotland wrote:

BTW when you had the problem with the engine limiting the power did you try pressing the button that disables the DSC, I suspect it was the DSC or the Rev limiter that was cutting the power. Did you try using the launch control that is there for just the situation that you found yourself in? I also find the selection of the Terrain Response programs hard to fathom out and unnecessarily convoluted, I have found, unlike previous TR equipped LR products I’ve owned, that I now don’t bother with the TR either in manual or in auto mode and just drive it in low box with HDC enabled/disabled as I need it, the setting up of TR is possibly one of the worst applications of what is otherwise a brilliant facility, what was wrong with a row of press buttons or a rotary selector? Why no Dynamic setting and why is what used to be called Highway mode now called “Comfort’ and I concur completely with your comments about once you have selected low range, there is no way for the uninitiated to see how to get back to high range too.

Thanks.

Hope you took my other comments with the pinch of salt that they deserved.


Re: the Terrain Response, sadly no I didn't get time to fully explore all of it. And tbh I didn't even know you have to manually turn off the DSC when in low range. My Jimny does this automatically for you when you select low. So I just assumed the Defender would do likewise, as I can't really fathom when it would be useful off road.

I'm also not knocking the underlying tech of Terrain Response, being able to adjust the throttle response and how much diff lockup (to preserve steering) all sound great in principle. But I do honestly think it is way too complex to be of any real practical use these days.

And it's not as if I'm a novice to tech or off roading. My day to day job is software related. But I grew up on a farm and have been around Land Rover trials vehicles since the mid 1980s. As well as driving many different types of tractors and agricultural machinery.