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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753  
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Not great figures for Jaguar. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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11th Jul 2020 9:01am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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That means serious trouble. 2019 annual global retail sales were still 558.000, already 5.9% down from 2018. And the resulting cost saving efforts that we saw were already very serious. You now cannot simply extrapolate the Q1 2020 to full year, but with the global economy as it is this year, the full year 2020 sales drop will run into double digits percentage. Don’t think they have much in store to weather this.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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11th Jul 2020 9:45am |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2169  
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hardly a suprise given half the world was "shut".........
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11th Jul 2020 11:52am |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2530 
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Agree. No point comparing 2020 sales figures to 2019. Apples and pears Defender 90XS SW
Mini Countryman Cooper S Morgan Plus 8 |
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11th Jul 2020 11:56am |
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| goodtimes Member Since: 04 Jan 2020 Location: Greenwich, CT Posts: 29 
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Bingo |
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11th Jul 2020 2:44pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2644  
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To put the figures into perspective when the world was in a better place.
Jeep Wrangler sales January to June 2019 (not Gladiator), just under 117,000. Total Jeep branded vehicles just under 457,000 An interesting figure to know is how much did the new Defender cost to bring to market against total value sold and profits per vehicle. Looks like as soon as the Bronco is available to buy, Jeep are looking to put a V8 Hemi into the Wrangler. Basically another kick in the gentleman's area for Land Rover. |
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11th Jul 2020 5:19pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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I have several American work colleagues who cannot wait for their new Defenders to get to them, they already own Range Rovers, the Defenders will be additional cars not replacing the FFRRs and they wouldn’t be seen dead in a Bronco or a Jeep, they would sooner buy a Korean SUV than buy American. These guys are as dedicated to LR products as any of us having owned numerous Series, Discoveries and RRS’s between them. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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11th Jul 2020 5:33pm |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481 
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Just look at it and then look at the sales numbers.
It’s as simple as the D5 equation. Looks well then sells well. 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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11th Jul 2020 6:02pm |
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| goodtimes Member Since: 04 Jan 2020 Location: Greenwich, CT Posts: 29
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Very accurate characterization of Goodtimes. |
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11th Jul 2020 6:24pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I think you are looking in the wrong direction - comparison year on year is obviously difficult but what is a reasonable comparison is how the various Land Rover models sold against themselves in the same period:  Click image to enlarge To sell less than half the volume of the critically panned D5 must be disappointing for JLR and, again, runs in completely the wrong direction of travel to all noises they have been making about it being a near runaway success... For comparison in the first quarter of sales the Evoque sold over 27,000, Discovery Sport over 13,500 and the Velar over 8,800. |
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12th Jul 2020 8:44am |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2644
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Thanks Supacat
That was the crux of my comment above and Tim’s reply. Yes you can have the best product in the world.......but a business, any business needs to sell in volume to continue to grow and invest. As new Land Rovers are the IPhone of the car world, they are disposable items. Both because a newer and more exciting model has been released but also because the older model cannot be trusted and needs to be got rid of. If the dealer experience is repeated to ‘none’ Land Rover consumers as they are to the established enthusiast then there is no repeat business. Is it time for Jaguar, Land Rover and Range Rover to split and go their separate ways under a different vehicle manufacturer, Ie Land Rover to Mercedes Commercial, Range Rover to VW/ Bentley and Jaguar to whoever owns Aston Martin. The big question is what will Tata do. ......  |
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12th Jul 2020 9:08am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645  
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@Supacat
thanks, source for your data? -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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12th Jul 2020 9:35am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3411 
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They tried splitting LR and RR up in 2011 with the newly launched Evoque, it didn’t have a Land Rover badge on it anywhere, might of had one on the rear though can’t remember, but those plans where scrapped as owners liked the history and association with the LR brand. |
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12th Jul 2020 9:55am |
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| LRSpain004 Member Since: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Elche Posts: 68 
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all official data can be found here. Note there are two tabs on the excel sheet download. You will see on the 'Wholesale' volumes New Defender sold 7,900 units in June alone.
All sales since 2016 are available here. https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/2016/repor...-downloads |
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12th Jul 2020 10:08am |
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