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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481   
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It feels like it’s tanking at birth. I haven’t seen so many of a new LR product listed available for immediate delivery on Autotrader. I know it’s Covid but they are 10 a penny.
Fascinating to watch used values on it. I think we will see it do slightly better than a D5 but not much. I bet the GFV’s on a PCP are not what they initially predicted. Could this be the next model to pull LR down further? I mean you look through all the different ones on Trader and I still haven’t seen a spec that looks good. 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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28th Jun 2020 12:13am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2637  
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And a new video of them green-laning:
-- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged 
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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28th Jun 2020 8:25am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2637
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nice video of the underside:
?t=402 -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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28th Jun 2020 8:45am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3388 
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Problem is, well within my dealer at least, they are mainly £50k+ and specs that not a lot of people want. I mean first edition models are limited colour choice, the only decent ones the Green. They would seriously have to discount them before I’d consider one. EDIT- Looks like they are offering £5k discounts on some of them. |
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28th Jun 2020 9:17am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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TBH the range of colours isn’t great regardless of the version. No choices of solid colours and especially no solid green or Solid blue which have always been a popular traditional colours. none of the demo cars I’ve seen on forecourts has had white steel wheels and white roof, but loads of “Gangsta” wagons with big wheels, black on black with back windows and interior. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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28th Jun 2020 1:10pm |
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| milesr3 Member Since: 12 Feb 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 873 
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I found one in Scotland! 
Interesting! |
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28th Jun 2020 2:59pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3388
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Bit of info on the wrapped Green one I posted the other day
Click image to enlarge Another Fresh Wrap Ready For The Road. We Wrapped This Brand New One Off 2020 Land Rover Defender For @fiveninedesign Using The New Forever Glossy @inozetek Military Green Giving It A Sleek Shine And 3m Gloss Khaki For The Roof And Accents. With Fresh Wheels From @bespokefl |
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28th Jun 2020 4:13pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2637
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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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28th Jun 2020 4:19pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Very 2!st century “dislikes” !
The keyless entry can be very hit and miss, sometimes you have to stand very close to the door, certainly less than 0.5m before the car detects the fob yet other times it is the the claimed 1.5m away. Maybe not such a bad thing in view of “grabbers” that crooks use. The “buttons” don’t bother me but the dimples on the door handles of my last RRS were better. The problem I’ve had is sometimes it can be difficult to trigger the dead locking with the second press of the button regardless of whether it’s the door handle button or the button on the fob, it doesn’t always engage so you really have to listen out for the quick beep audible confirmation that deadlocks have engaged. Secure stowage and boot space - he doesn’t say whether his car is a 5 seat or 7 seat - mine is 5 seat and where the 3rd row seats would be there is a vast hidden stowage area and what on earth does he want to carry that needs a bigger boot, it is vast in 5 seat versions. I would add another 2 tiny dislikes 1 - the tailgate softclose, the door looks like it is already closed before the softclose engages leading to people trying to slam the tailgate shut instead of just gently pushing up to about 5mm from the door latch and leaving it to self close. 2 - Carpet footwell mats - the front passenger foot mat compLetely covers the entire foot well, drivers side ends before the pedals so any mud / snow/ wet on your shoes/ boots drips off under the tiny bit of foot mat that is there and stays under the carpet mat, ready to smell awful in a few days time. It maybe that JLR is worried about a repeat of the L320 RRS issue of a few years ago when using the incorrect RRS mats could prevent the brake pedal going down....... Driver’s side foot well
Passenger side Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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28th Jun 2020 4:42pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3388
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It’s the same system on the Velar, never use it, always use the key. Either touch a button on the door or press a button on the fob. Not much use IMO.
Having said that though, hates a bit strong a word, perhaps minor annoyances. |
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28th Jun 2020 5:06pm |
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| Pacha Member Since: 23 Feb 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 772  
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To me that looks  awful, particularly the wheels, riser kit and the wrap..... Rgds.
Chris |
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28th Jun 2020 8:18pm |
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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 815 
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PowerfulUK giving the P300 a bit of wellie to get some performance stats
&fbclid=IwAR1_FB6Umf0l22gbnFvESSRtEHwSiEpryoDR9AAKxMJN3XMp0Q8X2_yV0qk yet another pommie bar steward down under MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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29th Jun 2020 1:13am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Interesting results ~ not sure if it says more about the app than the vehicle. I'd expect JLR's quoted figures to have been obtained from some quite expensive kit and so be accurate.
A difference from 7.7 to 6.6 seems quite large. The fact that Drive, Sport and Eco modes all made no difference was also a little odd but there doesn't appear to be anything in the iGuide that explains what the difference between the 3 settings actually are? |
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29th Jun 2020 5:52am |
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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 815
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that was what i found interesting, foot to the floor makes little difference irrespective of mode.. yet another pommie bar steward down under
MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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29th Jun 2020 6:14am |
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