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Wild Card 90



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15 bottles of beer per week is too much, whichever way you distribute it.
At 25, no immediate problem (apart from keeping your driving licence).
At 40, it is a problem! Google "alcohol consumption and blood pressure".

2 drinks a day, five days a week (two dry days), is the suggested maximum. Your 50% over that, even if you have four dry days in between. Keep in mind that that is the suggested maximum, and it doesn´t refer to how well individual people deal with alcohol.

(The "trained drinker" can drink far more, but only because their high body fat level slows down the intoxicating effects. They often have high blood pressure, with all the consequences).

Otherwise your fitness programme and diet sounds great. A good example to many! 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
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Post #839098 23rd Jun 2020 9:59am
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Huttopia



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Co1 wrote:
Nope, no fags either. Probably drink 15 bottles of beer over fri, sat, sun.



You've missed out a key bit of detail there - stubbies, 330ml or 500ml bottles Laughing

I discovered a couple of weeks ago that the brewery I can just about see from home has an arrangement with the milkman. That's right, I can get beer delivered with the milk and paper.....the beer is absolutely cracking too: https://spilsburyandjones.co.uk/shop/

Huttopia.
Post #839100 23rd Jun 2020 10:19am
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Rashers



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I have high blood pressure also.

I drink alcohol very infrequently. I have never smoked and I drink decaf tea and coffee. I don't add salt and limit my intake.

I have even been on a diet. I've lost nearly two and a half stone in 18 months. I probably still need to shed another stone, stone and a half to get 'normal' which i know is not helping the situation.

I have started exercising Shocked

Still my blood pressure is going up. I am very close to that big 5-0 birthday.

I have had my medication increased. I need to book another telephone appointment with my GP to review this.

I think most of my problems are work and stress related. One of my ex-colleagues sadly passed away last week. He wasn't much older than me and had a second, but fatal heart attack. It does make you wonder whether stepping off this merry-go-round wouldn't be a bad idea.
Post #839114 23rd Jun 2020 11:31am
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Huttopia



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Blimey Rashers, that all sounds a bit serious. Easier said than done to step off the merry go round, but if you can Thumbs Up

I can remember thinking at 18 I'd retire at 40. Not sure why I thought that would be a good idea!
Post #839115 23rd Jun 2020 11:37am
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Rashers



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I also have a couple of other medical issues which a. make the blood pressure more difficult to control and b. makes the GP's figures of what is normal and high differ from Joe Public.

I love my job, but I hate the constant battling, arguing, moaning, high expectations, lack of money, lack of resources, bizarrely short time frames to achieve the impossible.

None of the above help me or my blood pressure.

I think a lot of it depends on how you look at life. I try and do the best I can and to the best of my ability and I worry about getting details right. Whereas if I was a bit more laid back and relaxed about it all, and could just pedal rubbish out the door and not be concerned or bothered and I probably wouldn't be taking so many pills.

I have always had the dream of walking away from it and doing something which is perhaps just as enjoyable but less stressful and with less salary. It's probably a pipe dream. I don't get paid bad for what I do, but I see people on a heck of a lot less, with a hell of a lot more stress and so I stay doing what I am doing.

As an old fella I used to work with would say; 'The grass on the other side of the fence is mostly just grass'. I think I will always remember that.
Post #839122 23rd Jun 2020 12:17pm
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Rashers



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Huttopia wrote:
Blimey Rashers, that all sounds a bit serious. Easier said than done to step off the merry go round, but if you can Thumbs Up

I can remember thinking at 18 I'd retire at 40. Not sure why I thought that would be a good idea!


You possibly could have retired at 40 if you hadn't bought a Land Rover Rolling with laughter

I look back and think that if I had saved half of what I have squandered and wasted money on I would be rich by now. Mind you, I would be rich and very miserable Whistle
Post #839124 23rd Jun 2020 12:20pm
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Co1



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Huttopia wrote:
Co1 wrote:
Nope, no fags either. Probably drink 15 bottles of beer over fri, sat, sun.



You've missed out a key bit of detail there - stubbies, 330ml or 500ml bottles Laughing

I discovered a couple of weeks ago that the brewery I can just about see from home has an arrangement with the milkman. That's right, I can get beer delivered with the milk and paper.....the beer is absolutely cracking too: https://spilsburyandjones.co.uk/shop/

Huttopia.


Full size bottles Hutt, which I know it is probably not what the government recommends! I fear it would be much higher if the milkman delivered!!
Post #839171 23rd Jun 2020 4:30pm
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Birdy



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“the Dr put me on ramipril” “ I was put on a low dose of Ramipril then saw a different DR on a check up who took me off the pills” “...now on high doses of rampiril and 3 other drugs”

My own Dr prescribed Lisinopril, a specialist at the hospital prescribed Amlodipine. First doctor: “Oh, take them both then”.

Other quacks will go the rat-poison route to thin the blood, they’ll all try to get you on statins and/or daily aspirin.

And I guarantee not one of them will have investigated a REASON for your higher than average BP, just prescribe any old thing which will give a lower reading on the monitor. And all because seven out of ten people who have heart attacks/strokes have a higher than normal blood pressure (I’m making that statistic up, but only 25% of statistics are true, the other 85% are invention). But the BP of persons who DON’T have heart attacks/strokes is never measured, so where’s the proof it’s a big deal?

I’m 72, had a TIA about ten years ago almost certainly caused by stress (old man with teenage daughters, say no more) and now get a bit of angina if, for example, I run too quickly up a flight of stairs.

The side effects of the pills I HAVE taken ranged from muscle cramps to being violently ill (“Oh, we should have taken you off that one months ago, long-term it causes stomach ulcers”), I now take only a daily Clopidogrel (less dangerous than aspirin).

In short, eat sensibly, exercise regularly, and don’t worry too much about having a higher BP than average. And DO NOT blindly accept a Doctor’s choice of medicines without having established the exact cause and how these medicines are going to remedy it.

cf. “My Puma has less power than before” “Mmmm, that’s normally worn injectors, we’ll change ’em” “Wow, I’ve just pumped the tyres up to normal pressure and the truck’s running much better”

Peter
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Huttopia



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My father is quite happy to take a tablet rather than address the underlying issue i.e. he’s 73, does no exercise, loves beer and food and wine and food and food and beer. Consequently he’s been 19-20 stone for 50 years. Pill for gout, statins, heart pill (pacemaker last year as heart rate was stuck at 40) on it goes. I’ve railed against it but gave up some time ago- he’s a very happy / contented chap. He knows what he likes, he pootles about doing his thing with his old Ariel Red Hunter or KTM Duke, and is just super chilled. When he worked as a solicitor he didn’t take on new clients for the last 20 years, he was happy working with his group of long established clients who were also keen on a pub lunch and a pint.

Took me bloomin ages to work out what he worked out ages ago.....
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Co1



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Thanks for the comments gents, much appreciated. I don’t really do meds as a rule, so that would be very much last resort for me. I’m going to measure it daily and change one thing at a time to rule things in or out so that I can go to the quack armed with a root cause if need be.
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Supacat



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Wild Card 90 wrote:
15 bottles of beer per week is too much, whichever way you distribute it.


I think I'd be starting with this. Thumbs Up
Post #839282 24th Jun 2020 5:35am
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