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RDR



Member Since: 27 Apr 2018
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It can be really counterintuitive at first getting to grips with trusting the electronics. I have found when stuck or up against a obstacle don’t rev it or rock it press the pedal to tell the car you want to make progress and hold your foot for a few seconds to let it figure it out. If your up and down on the throttle it’s not nearly as effective. It’s different depending on what mode your in too sand mode for instance is best if you want to just floor it. All discovery experience I must add not new defender. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
Post #838031 18th Jun 2020 11:13am
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NinetyTD4



Member Since: 22 Apr 2011
Location: North
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Wales 2012 Defender 90 Other SW Keswick Green
The more I see of the New Defender the more I get my feeling confirmed - this car is superfluous. JLR builts more or less the same car in several shades, so there is nothing left of a 'Defender'. It is just a Defender version of the New Beetle approach, lookalike applications to pretend something it isn't. I don't see this as being an honest car, as the Landrover from Series to Defender were. Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.
Post #838043 18th Jun 2020 12:03pm
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Re: New defender Khan
flamted2 wrote:
Hey guys, I had a chance to borrow the new Kahn defender and made a quick video on it..... mixed thoughts....


Be honest ~ you're just spamming now, aren't you?
Post #838047 18th Jun 2020 12:38pm
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
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I don’t think any selfrespecting old or new Defender owner would want to be seen dead advertising their car as a Chelsea Tractor, it might be the done thing for Jeep, Bentayga and G-Wagon owners - regardless of whether it is a company name or not. Also there are advertising rules on this forum and both Kahn and Chelsea Tractor have had warnings about abusing them before. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #838053 18th Jun 2020 1:33pm
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SN



Member Since: 29 Jun 2007
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Naks wrote:
Exterior footage of the Chinaman trail via their Instagram feed:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CBhipmTjo5A/


Loving that - got more balls than me - worst I ever did was up the steps in my first D3 at the now closed Roych Clough in the Peak Dsitrict and they were a piece of cake compared to this!!! Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
Post #838183 19th Jun 2020 12:08am
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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
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Tim in Scotland wrote:
My car has configurable Terrain Response - I That car may not have it as here it is an option.


it certainly does not have the active differential option from this picture, only one centre locking diff on the 4x4
info. Assume with configurable TR you can adjust the settings to minimise wheelspin depending on the situation you are in



Click image to enlarge yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #838213 19th Jun 2020 7:59am
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
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Dealer enabled functions
Evoque and RRS both have these so I assume that D5 and L405 have them too - L663 Defender’s iGuide mentions that New Defender has them as well. In the iGuide e-handbook they are highlighted with an icon of a group of people.


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So far I have found two “dealer enabled” functions. Perhaps if others find more they could “Quote” this post and edit in the functions they find. It’s a pity that the manual doesn’t list the additional functions. I know that the dealer who supplied both my Evoques and the last RRS enabled them all as a matter of course at PDI but some dealers have been known to charge to enable these features. If purchasing a new one then make sure to tell the dealership to make sure that they are all enabled at PDI.

So far I have found:

1) Speed sensitive wiper speed adjustment

2) Drip mode.......... no not something to switch on oil drips on the drive or an automatic runny nose wipe function but a function to give a delayed wiper wipe after operating the screen wash/wipe program function Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

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Post #838230 19th Jun 2020 8:54am
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
German review, with some mild off-roading

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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
Post #838231 19th Jun 2020 8:56am
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Tim in Scotland



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I like his translation of “grabhandle” as the “Oh s Censored t handle” Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #838241 19th Jun 2020 9:30am
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NinetyTD4



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Interesting to see the hard flickering of the daylight LEDs ... so they are obviously pulsed. Being educated as an electrical engineer a long time ago, another thing I don't like. Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.
Post #838263 19th Jun 2020 11:36am
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J77



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They are no different to any other LED daytime running light.
Post #838281 19th Jun 2020 12:58pm
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Ecco



Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
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Malaysia 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Galway Green
Quote:

They are no different to any other LED daytime running light.

..that's exactly why he said that he do not like PWM'ed light sources..
Post #838282 19th Jun 2020 1:21pm
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J77



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Nice that satellite mapping can be used via the digital dash.



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Post #838286 19th Jun 2020 2:03pm
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Morepower



Member Since: 08 Jan 2013
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Cool... so it won't be long before automated ticketing for any motoring infringements.... It doesn't matter how bad it is, It can always get worse...

2013 Bowler 110 (Sold)
2016 Bowler 90 Rally Spec (Sold)
Post #838294 19th Jun 2020 3:23pm
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Supacat



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Supacat wrote:
Naks wrote:
Finally, some proper off-roading with a direct comparison between old & new Defender, although the driver does not seem to know what he's doing...




Clearly the driver is new to off-roading, and it also doesn't seem like that 110 has the rear e-diff. He also clearly doesn't know how to get the TC to work properly.

But even without the rear e-diff, it shouldn't have gotten stuck so much.

I would have walked that hill in my D4 and RRS


I thought the screen at the beginning showed both rear and centre diffs locked?

I certainly thought I saw some funny behaviour.

On the first section it looked at point the rear axle was driving the vehicle forward whilst the front (at least the front left we could see) was locked and so slid.

Then on the second climb, I thought I could see the front axle rotating at a greater speed than the rear?

I think it would have made better progress if the bloke in front didn't keep stopping him.

Sorry ~ but I did laugh when all those plastic bits fell off Embarassed


Just looking at the iGuide with regard to the e diff:

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Which seems to confirm that they do not operate in an on/off fashion but rather in an almost infinitely variable fashion ~ just what controls the level of wheelspin is the question?
Post #838312 19th Jun 2020 4:14pm
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