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Naks



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jah, plenty of accidents at that spot Shocked

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Post #837862 17th Jun 2020 5:45pm
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spudfan



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Ireland 
I remember when the Discovery got it'd traction control, Land Rover demonstrated it by putting three of the Discovery's wheels on rollers and it proceeded up the slope with drive to one wheel. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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spudfan



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Land Rover brochures claim a 45 degree slope as what the vehicles would do, I suppose after that gravity kicks in. Traction control allowed the 45 degree slope to be bettered The swivel passenger side on the Defender took some abuse coming down. Was that the traction control chattering away?
That Range Rover was very impressive. What ever about going up I'd be cringing coming down!
Wonder who was the first to point a vehicle at the slope and think it possible to get up? 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #837867 17th Jun 2020 5:55pm
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Tim in Scotland



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For Spudfan.....

This was the RRS one I meant, makes going up look a breeze but I bet when it started to slide with the wheels locked up on the way back down there were some brown skid marks inside as well as the black ones from the tyres on the outside! You wouldn’t want to end up coming down too quickly with that ridge at the bottom waiting to destroy the front of the car! enjoy watching the Footballers Fave/ Drug dealers special showing what it can do in experienced hands, I think there is a comment in the approach video of this one that the RRS might even be on OEM tyres......... not offroad tyres Shocked but looking at the last few seconds of the video they look quite aggressive tyres
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2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #837950 17th Jun 2020 10:20pm
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zilch



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Tim in Scotland wrote:

If somebody in Aus can get their New Defender through terrain like this as easily as this Well known RRS Did it I’ll be a happy man because my car won’t ever get to drive anything like that (mainly because in Scotland we don’t have rainforests! We have the rain and the forests but nothing like that!)


Tim, that's Jamie (Salsa) from rrsport.co.uk and a good mate from down under, we have been off roading with
Jamie a few times. Sad to say his RRS (black betty) has been sold and he his selling his SVX 110 (or should i say his
second SVX, he drowned the first one Laughing ) https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/newcastle/...1238529984

He currently runs a D4 but is waiting to assess my P400 110 whenever it rocks up to see if he will make the leap to the new Defender..

Jamie's youtube channel with plenty of off roading / touring coverage across Australia https://www.youtube.com/user/JamieOGilmore yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport


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Post #837957 18th Jun 2020 12:55am
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zilch



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Tim in Scotland wrote:
TPMS display is the same In Defender - numbers in brackets are what the pressures should be numbers above are “as read” by the system.


from a number of the Namibia reports, i remember some of the journalists mentioning they did not
reduce the tyre pressure to much as it would trigger the TPMS alerts, so LR deliberately set the vehicles
at the lowest possible level which would avoid annoying everyone. Looking at the out the window towards
the end, the tyres seemed to be quite low, so assume TPMS was working correctly.. Is there an option to
re calibrate/configure TPMS?? yet another pommie bar steward down under

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Post #837958 18th Jun 2020 1:12am
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zilch



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just for Grenadier as i know he loves these videos Whistle a Danish review with some light off road touches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9waT32Ecag yet another pommie bar steward down under

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Post #837969 18th Jun 2020 5:05am
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RDR



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On TPMS a useful demonstration of the over the air software upgrades of the future would be the ability to set your own tyre pressure to suit your tyre setup. They would have to have a warning disclaimer at startup each time I guess if your pressures are not factory spec to keep to the safety principle of it and keep the amber warning on the dash but would be an appropriate feature for the defender.


Mpg I would expect due to car idling and being in low range.

Low coolant, my second to last d4 flashed it briefly many times when on bumpy roads or steep inclines. Dealer did something (can’t recall what) but was a 5 min fix, and no it wasn’t low on coolant Very Happy 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
Post #837975 18th Jun 2020 6:16am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
RDR wrote:
Low coolant, my second to last d4 flashed it briefly many times when on bumpy roads or steep inclines. Dealer did something (can’t recall what) but was a 5 min fix, and no it wasn’t low on coolant Very Happy


The question really is why these "learnings" are not carried forward or incorporated into new model launches? Confused
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zilch



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RDR wrote:
Low coolant, my second to last d4 flashed it briefly many times when on bumpy roads or steep inclines. Dealer did something (can’t recall what) but was a 5 min fix, and no it wasn’t low on coolant Very Happy


Same problem on the RRS L320, either the float and/or sensor issues as i remember.. yet another pommie bar steward down under

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Post #837985 18th Jun 2020 7:28am
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Tim in Scotland



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IIRC on L320 it was found that the sender float for coolant level was porous but that was also a long time ago. There was also an issue with the coolant tank leaking on a seam on some cars........ I don’t know how the system works but I wonder if the fix for RDR’s car was that the dealer increased the delay time before the warning would be flagged. Say from 3 secs out to 20 secs. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
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Ecco



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Malaysia 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Galway Green
Quote:
I wonder if the fix for RDR’s car was that the dealer increased the delay time before the warning would be flagged. Say from 3 secs out to 20 secs.


..P38 had this issue regarding brake fluid alert..its sorted exactly as you described, trough diagnostic tool..
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Naks



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Supacat



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Again, there appears to be a lot of wheel spinning before any form of traction control kicks in?
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Tim in Scotland



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My car has configurable Terrain Response - I haven’t looked at what can be adjusted yet but TC might be one of the things that can be reconfigured to adjust the cut in. That car may not have it as here it is an option. In the Danish video there was mention of a manual adjust facility for one of the settings but I haven’t found that yet. Also I don’t think I have the ATPC on mine - offroad cruise control device that the Danish guy mentioned.

He didn’t say which if the Petrol engines is fitted but if that’s the P300 4 pot job then he didn’t seem to need to use a lot of power/ revs to get up that track, only a couple of places where he seemed to need a little more throttle than others. It certainly did seem to be struggling or stressed Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
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