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Landie Boy



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Retrieving a remap
Hi,

I have a mate who has a TD5 110 which was remapped before he bought the car. Unfortunately the cars ecu wiring loom had to be replaced because it was creating faults and putting the car into limp mode. The owner cleared the fault so he could get home but at the same time it removed the remap Sad Can it be retrieved?

Thanks Jack
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party monkey



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Jack - I'm sorry mate I don't know the answer to your question but it has made me wonder how simply clearing a fault code could remove the remap?

I don't know enough about the black art of remapping (other than my 110 is better for it Smile ) but I had assumed that a remap was a replacement map rather than an overlay map (if that makes sense)

Is it possible that the remap could have been removed and put back to standard map at the time that the ECU loom was replaced?

Sure the knowledgeable Tuning folks will be able to answer both our questions. Bow down Bow down

Edit - FWIW - I know Gary at Alive has copies of both my original (stock) tune and the current tune, so perhaps if your mate knew who had done the tune (long shot I know given it was on the truck when he bought it ), they may have a backup copy. Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless.
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Landie Boy



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Yeh that's the thing that confused both of us, the owner was there when the loom was replaced and the ECU was not touched. He does not know who did it Sad

Jack
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party monkey



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Only other thing I can think of is could he perhaps did not have a remap but one of these tuning chips that fools the ECU? - He may have just assumed it's a remap (It's the sort of thing I would do... hence the suggestion Embarassed Embarassed )

Assuming that this was connected into the old loom and that was replaced then ECU is fooled no more and it's back to stock. Although, if this were the case then surely either he or the person that replaced the loom would have noticed it......

I'll just keep going digging myself a bigger hole until somebody that actually knows what they're talking about comes along Whistle Whistle Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless.
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Lorryman100



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This is confusing as the ECU is reflashed with a new fuel file this replaces the standard fuel file so clearing a dtc would not be able to reflash the original fuel file to the ecu as there would be no record of the original fuel file meaning if that happened the car would be unable to run as there would be no fuel file as it would have been wiped Confused I think.......my head hurts now Whistle

PM could be on the right wavelength with the plug in module idea though Bow down
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kzycnn



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PM could well be right. On my Disco 2 TD5 I had a dastek in-line tuning device that the dealer managed to plug back into itself Neutral At a glance you could see the device and ECU and all looked ok but the car was obviously a bit slower afterwards as the tuning had effectively disappeared. They did this whilst relacing the injector loom.....

After 'upgrading' to a Defender I had the ECU remapped rather than fit an in-line device again.

Tony
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Yorkshire90



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Re: Retrieving a remap
Landie Boy wrote:
Hi,

I have a mate who has a TD5 110 which was remapped before he bought the car. Unfortunately the cars ecu wiring loom had to be replaced because it was creating faults and putting the car into limp mode. The owner cleared the fault so he could get home but at the same time it removed the remap Sad Can it be retrieved?

Thanks Jack


I'd contact the guy who he purchased it from to see if he can have the ECU mapped again.

I know that if a remap is removed from a tuned vehicle (via Dealer software updates etc) I'm pretty sure that that Bell Auto's or IRB developments (if it can be proved that it's the same ECU/Vehicle that was mapped on records) it can be added to the ECU again... small labour charge usually included. If I'm wrong please state... most of the major LR tuners do this iirc.
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