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| Devon-Rover Member Since: 22 Jan 2015 Location: South Devon Posts: 919   
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Genuine Metalastik Are a sound bet.
For Poly then Superpro I've always been impressed by and to be fair the bearmach ones I've used have taken a fair bit of use on other vehicles. you get what you pay for it seems. Also can be found on Fb, Ytube, Insta & Twitter @4WDSouthwest |
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27th Apr 2020 5:56pm |
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| Mo Murphy Member Since: 01 Jun 2008 Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts Posts: 2253 
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I've used superpro, ''OEM'' and genuine for on road and laning.
I will continue to use genuine despite their cost over the others because they last the longest. Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen. 50 Shades of Pennine Grey |
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27th Apr 2020 6:30pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8103  
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I use superpro, they outlast anything else on our training vehicles. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop Last edited by jst on 28th Apr 2020 11:28am. Edited 1 time in total |
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27th Apr 2020 8:08pm |
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| Chris86 Member Since: 15 Jul 2014 Location: South Yorks Posts: 791 
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We have found the same
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28th Apr 2020 10:03am |
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| L110CDL Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 10818 
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Had both types and i always use genuine ones now
 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.
Keeper. Clayton. |
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28th Apr 2020 8:18pm |
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| bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 1927  
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Looks like we have a split for Superpro and genuine so far
I expect they are pretty similar, are the superpro rubber or a poly of some description? 2023 Defender L663 V8 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8 (gone) 2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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28th Apr 2020 8:57pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20506
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+1. No Guts, No Glory. š¬š§š“ó §ó ¢ó „ó ®ó §ó æš“ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó æš“ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó “ó æš®šŖšŗšøā½ļøš¢ļøāļøš§°šŖ |
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28th Apr 2020 9:04pm |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1849
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Well, just to keep on making things difficult I'll say that I've just fitted a full set of Superpro.
I don't have such easy access to a garage, and don't have a press, and only a small-ish vice, so genuine bushes isn't a DIY option. Obviously I can't comment too much on the Superpro longevity, or even on how the car drives given the lockdown, but really easy to fit and certainly feel like they should make a huge difference to the how the car behaves. Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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28th Apr 2020 9:16pm |
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| bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 1927
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Donald that is the type of feedback Iām after!
Same here, I only have a standard vice and no press or access to a commercial garage without paying for someone else to do it, so ease of fitting is quite important to me. Thanks  2023 Defender L663 V8
2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8 (gone) 2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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28th Apr 2020 9:36pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20506
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The trouble is with Poly is that the bushes are supposed to be the weak point that takes the abuse and vibration and with some tollenece reducing shock loads to the other structures and of course ereplacea,e all be it not easily.
Most of the Poly bushes are much harder than Genuine rubber, and that induces stress in the other components by far. About the only good thing is they are replaceable at home, but at a cost to other items. I had them on my rear dampers once, all around in fact. I hit a pothole one day in lanes, nothing huge but enough. Heard a tapping and found that the damper top mount eye had sheared clean of at the shoulder so the damper upper was only held in place by the upper plastic shroud containing the loose piston with the broken off eye at the top. 
I fitted them because the old factory rubbers were knackered, big mistake just because I tried to avoid getting factory rubbers replaced for me. In the end I got new take off dampers all around, basically brand new with factory fitted bushes and I did the same with the steering damper. Has been perfect ever since, fitted and forgotten so to speak. Whilst the bushes can be a pain the genuine ones and cost a few quid to get replaced. In the long run Polybusges can break other components with induced stress and shock loading. Those components cost significantly more, and will introduce human stress. 
I wouldn't ever go back to Polybushes, but each to their own. If anyone really does have to try them I would use the softest grade, as they seem to do often or not a soft, medium, hard grade. Soft would obviously be better for shock loading. Nothing is worse than doing a whole job, and then finding a few months after a problem has developed and has to be sorted out yet again. No Guts, No Glory. š¬š§š“ó §ó ¢ó „ó ®ó §ó æš“ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó æš“ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó “ó æš®šŖšŗšøā½ļøš¢ļøāļøš§°šŖ |
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28th Apr 2020 9:49pm |
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| windy81 Member Since: 14 Mar 2018 Location: North Wales Posts: 311 
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It should be mentioned that polybushes (polyurethane ??) have different variants, from hard to soft.
I wouldn't want the hard ones but I would entertain the soft ones/ I however replaced all my bushes with rubber, as Superpro i thought were too expensive but the only ones I would consider using. I did this at home with a vice and hacksaw. Its not very difficult just time consuming. Once thing I noticed is the yellow polybushes (britpart ??) i removed were moving and lose and acting like bearings as well as bushes, which can't be a good thing. I did this at home with a vice and hacksaw. Its not very difficult just time consuming. |
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29th Apr 2020 1:58am |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039  
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I used all kinds off bushes, but the rubber ones don't last for me. The bushes on the front axle don't last a year if genuine. Genuine will last a little longer then the cheap ones but both were mot failures for me.
You can replace them easy when the are worn. 
I am transferring to poly bush soft. Last longer ( didn't have to replace one over the last 3 years. ) Till now I replace front axle hocky sticks, chassis side and axle side. Rear axle only the chassis side. All other bushes are still OK. Roel 1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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29th Apr 2020 11:36am |
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| Green Machine Member Since: 19 Nov 2010 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1226 
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Also worth noting that 'Polybush' and 'Superpro' are not the same. They are both polyurethane bushes, but made by different people. I have no direct experience of either, but have done research into both in the past. 'Polybush' offer all their bushes in 3 different performance / stiffness levels. This seems bizarre to me, as surely only one of those is going to be correct for the application?
Superpro only offer their bushes in one grade and state that each bush has been specifically designed for the intended application. This seems a far more logical approach to me. In the end, I have stuck with genuine because whenever this topic comes up, the overall weight seems to be in favour of genuine. However, I think it would be helpful to the discussion if people made the clear distinction between 'Polybush' and 'Superpro' rather than lumping them all in together as 'poly'. Has anyone had bad experience with Superpro bushes? Yes, they are expensive, but if they are a genuine 'fit and forget' option that works, then that expense is rather more justified. 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green |
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29th Apr 2020 12:03pm |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039
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Mine come from Bearmach I think ( i didn't check the bag) but the look the same as on their website. My suplier told me these are softer then other he is selling.
I don't believe in one thing is fit for all purposes. A stiffer bush might give a tighter ride but for offroading a softer bush might be better. Roel 1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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29th Apr 2020 5:20pm |
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