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Ianh



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Please put me right. I’m sure I read somewhere that the later puma defenders had a sealed for life splined sliding shaft. Hence no greasing nipple. Mine is a 2.2 2013 110 and does not have a grease nipple there. Hence I searched a while ago and I’m sure I read it somewhere.
Post #827270 23rd Apr 2020 7:35pm
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custom90



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When I did mine I put a zip tie around the shaft. (No jokes please.) toward one end and a zip tie on the flange the same end too once removed.
So then you know which way is which and then reference marks so you know exactly which part went where. (On the prop, and all mating surfaces inc diff flange. And only do one end at a time then that can’t be mixed up.
Liquid tipexx does the job on a clean surface.
I’ve never had a problem with mine since, factory props with now new GKN UJ’s. I also had missing grease nipples as I explained above on this thread and I did both front and rear props so all four UJ’s.
The rear most to rear diff failed on mine, it’s most exposed and has a higher ingress of water and detritus and angle it seems.
First sign of it, even though I didn’t know it at the time was a pinion oil leak from the diff nose. I had the leak repaired about 3 times and I was puzzled as to why it kept coming back. Then I realised the roller bearings in one UJ cup were non existent, so caused a lot of issues.

I wouldn’t recommend removing the splined slider at all, if it’s worn you’d soon tell with torsional movement without removing it.
So basically put everything back as you found it and all will be fine, without worrying about vibrations created or issues such as Blackwolf suggested.

Mind you, I wouldn’t have been so confident to take on such a job if it wasn’t for the excellent advice kindly provided by Blackwolf who really does know his stuff with these things. Thumbs Up $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #827286 23rd Apr 2020 8:28pm
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custom90



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Ian - AFAIK You are right, mine (2.4) has a grease nipple on the slider but late 2.2’s don’t I believe.
The splined sliders I left well alone on mine, even though I could have removed I see little point if well greased with fresh grease.

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Post #827289 23rd Apr 2020 8:31pm
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JPE



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Ianh, mine is a 2.2 2013 110 also & I'm sure I read somewhere too that later puma defenders have a sealed for life sliding shaft. But I can't remember where I read it.
Post #827303 23rd Apr 2020 11:18pm
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blackwolf



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This "sealed-for-life" concept cracks me up, it sounds great but in effect it just means that the "life" is a lot shorter!

I think it is what happens when Engineering tells Marketing to turn "cheaper to make" into a benefit.
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Ianh



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I totally agree blackwolf, “for life” Is a useless term unless you state how long you mean by “life”. So I do expect it to fail during ownership at some point. I just wanted to confirm my understanding so others in the same position did not go hunting for a nipple that is not there or intended (by landrover in their lack of wisdom) to be their on certain late defenders.
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skidrov



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Australia 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Fuji White
Yep, I similarly dislike the "for life" euphemism... I've also seen a "for life" suggestion from some car makers for the fluid in their auto transmissions... Argh Censored !!!!

[Rant mode off] I have a MY10 110, does NOT have a prop shaft grease nipple.
Post #827704 26th Apr 2020 2:01am
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