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DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1400 |
There's a few stories from late 2019 about it getting a BMW V8 turbo.
https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/10/24/land-ro...announced/ |
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25th Apr 2020 2:43pm |
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J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3393 |
There’s been a few Range Rovers out testing with BMW engines.
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25th Apr 2020 3:00pm |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 |
Not going to help those CO2 fleet averages...
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25th Apr 2020 3:11pm |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 |
Click image to enlarge Jonathan Walls (@JonathanWalls4) Tweeted: Who needs step ladders when you’ve got a moving one! Hedge cutting made simple thanks to #Newdefender and its superb static and dynamic roof load carrying capability !!#stayinstayadventurous https://t.co/RyEEKZvkvX https://twitter.com/JonathanWalls4/status/...96768?s=20 |
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25th Apr 2020 3:50pm |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 |
Remember the thread about new Defender owners not wanting to fill the boot up to the headlining with things?
Click image to enlarge Kim Palmer (@KimmyPsWorld) Tweeted: @JonathanWalls4 Excellent, mine been put to work too! https://t.co/4wcIofEmBH https://twitter.com/KimmyPsWorld/status/1254060157509799936?s=20 |
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25th Apr 2020 4:09pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17369 |
If that's a company car, won't that fall foul of PUWER? |
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25th Apr 2020 4:24pm |
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Devon-Rover Member Since: 22 Jan 2015 Location: South Devon Posts: 914 |
Thanks for the Video share Naks.
The rub is that knowing the Eastnor estate. They had a play up on the sheep field where the concrete moguls are then moved up the hill to the rock crawl, (which they descended ) and then before you know it they have turned their backs on Clenchers mill and Hospital ( Just a stone throw from the field) and gone off back across the estate to go up along the ridgeway. Sadly having driven all those tracks in my defender it didn't really break a sweat either. So to me the new defenders off road ability remains a mystery. We won't mention they appeared to have been lead about by a D5 anyway. The winching bit wouldn't have stopped most vehicles anyway, apart from trials 80's with their 4.6's and insa turbos on, that has been run through there if I'm recognising that bit correctly. Also can be found on Fb, Ytube, Insta & Twitter @4WDSouthwest |
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25th Apr 2020 6:40pm |
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DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1400 |
If you're selling them outside the EU it won't count towards the EU sales CO2 average, sell as many as want in the rest of the world! Then if you want to sell a really exclusive (very high profit) model inside the EU, the low number sold won't dent the average much. Or you sell as many as you can and stop just before the average becomes illegal. Either way the sales inside the EU will be fully compliant with all environmental legislation. Just as every manufacturer will be doing and saying "look how good we are". Shame it's finished the Suzuki Jimny in the EU though. |
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25th Apr 2020 7:26pm |
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adolfy Member Since: 01 Dec 2016 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 58 |
Having been driven around Eastnor estate many times as a child in series 1 and 2 Land rovers and even being in the front seat of a series 1 as it rolled down the lower part, of what was the referred to gearbox hill, nothing that they show is in this video is impressive. The pretender is just that, a pretender. Land Rover 1950 series 1 Land Rover LWB 1967 series 2A Land Rover SWB 1980 series 3 Land Rover 110 Defender 2013 |
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26th Apr 2020 8:38am |
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RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592 |
Videos like that are not helping with the new defenders reputation in the land rover community. They are are in a very difficult spot with PR on this and will never be able to please all. The Defender looks as capable off-road as the old one (standard spec vs standard spec) and it will be as capable if not a little more than the rest of the range. The D5 in front was going to attract comment and whoever let that happen needs to have a sit-down with the boss.
They need to approach this on a new angle to appeal to the new customers maybe on how it is as good off-road as the old one but it also provides the safety, comfort and modern day trappings a normal family car needs to have too. For me thats the impressive thing about this car it looks like it can do both off-road and on road well which is a very impressive achievement. Towing, I want to see more towing road tests. No more off road jollies I have seen enough, its good at it. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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26th Apr 2020 8:58am |
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22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 |
My question would be how does any of that ^^^ differentiate it from a Discvery (more the 1-4 than the current one)? So far the only advantage I can see is the improved wading depth, but only a brave minority are going to get anywhere close to that. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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26th Apr 2020 9:10am |
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22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 |
There is a subtle difference between highlighting the improvements (many of which are subjective anyway) and just saying the old one was crap. But that distinction appears to have been lost in a lot of write ups. I would be more interested in the views of someone who loves (and "gets") the old one when reviewing the new one. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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26th Apr 2020 9:15am |
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J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3393 |
And those that love the old one are saying the new one is crap. What’s the difference?
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26th Apr 2020 10:05am |
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22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 |
Are they? I think it's more a case of saying it doesn't seem to have much link with the old, not that it is uncomfortable, unreliable etc which it certainly won't be. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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26th Apr 2020 10:09am |
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