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| Chopperone Member Since: 13 Nov 2016 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 396  
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Hi
Some advice please. I have a 2007 Tdci 2.4 with Central locking & two alarm fobs. The vehicle battery is 18 months old. Last week I went to move the vehicle which I hadn't used for about 3 weeks & it wouldn't start so I recharged battery & moved it out the garage - left it running for 5 mins & switched off to do my jobs. One of the jobs entailed disconnecting the battery for a few minutes. Once completed I went to start it & it wouldn't start & alarm sounded. Tried a number of times & I thought the battery had gone down again. I recharged it overnight. I also changed the battery in the alarm fob. The alarm fob does not unlock/lock the vehicle. The alarm/immobilise lights are not illuminated at all. So far I have tried pressing the fob repeatedly , I have disconnected battery & left off for 1/2hr. I have tried touching +ive to -ive terminals to "re-set" ; all to no avail. I have read through various posts here. I don't have a Nanocom. I have checked fuses & all appear to be in order. What's my next move please? Cheers Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful. |
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10th Apr 2020 11:14am |
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| Chopperone Member Since: 13 Nov 2016 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 396
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Issue resolved !
Fuse 1 had blown & it blew again - not sure why. I replaced it & starting checking door switches. I then decided to RTFM & then applied some logic I have the alarm /immobiliser & C/L all working and the vehicle runs 
No where to go/not allowed to go anywhere. Still at least I can move it out of the yard. Stay safe folks Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful. |
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10th Apr 2020 12:45pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8033  
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Top result. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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10th Apr 2020 2:07pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
Fuse 1 is ABS unit
 Last edited by dorsetsmith on 11th Apr 2020 5:23am. Edited 2 times in total |
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10th Apr 2020 5:32pm |
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| Chopperone Member Since: 13 Nov 2016 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 396
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Unfortunately l spoke too soon.
I replaced the 20 amp fuse in position 1 under the driver’s seat.( marked central locking). I have Mazda seats in my 90 so not exactly a 2 minute job to access the fuse box. Then reset alarm & tested - everything ok. Put seats back in / quick test & drove up my drive & then put back in garage; reset alarm & it popped the fuse,alarm goes off & it won’t start 
What l don’t understand is that l didn’t do anything anywhere near the C/L When l did the few jobs the other day. I can only assume that there is a short somewhere in the C/L circuit which is causing the problem. Any known areas where l should start looking? Thanks Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful. |
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10th Apr 2020 8:47pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8033
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If it was cl surely it would just not lock that door with failed wiring. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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10th Apr 2020 8:55pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
You mean Fuse 7 feeds the battery voltage input pin 25 gray plug on the alarm unit
also feeds door locking output on the alarm unit green plug pin 3-2 Good place to start Central locking wiring  Click image to enlarge Id start with door to a pliller rubber and wiring |
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11th Apr 2020 5:28am |
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| Chopperone Member Since: 13 Nov 2016 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 396
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Thanks for everyones input so far.
I am confused about FUSE 7. I have 2 x fuse locations in my 2007 90. One under the steering column & one under the driver’s seat. Under the driver’s seat there is a 20 amp fuse in the first position ; it is marked C/L ( nothing else) this is the fuse that blows. There is no reference to fuse 7. What am l missing? I will have another good look in the next few days to try & solve this Thanks Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful. |
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11th Apr 2020 9:17pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
This will keep you busy
https://1drv.ms/b/s!AtZSoWFHDgnGkGkrFWcZsRtsH3Dp?e=5L8B2W https://1drv.ms/b/s!AtZSoWFHDgnGhDbxYedTopmyd1rA?e=a7MCOv Last edited by dorsetsmith on 12th Apr 2020 7:06am. Edited 1 time in total |
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12th Apr 2020 6:58am |
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| Chopperone Member Since: 13 Nov 2016 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 396
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Hi
Thanks Dorset. I now understand It is Fuse 7 that blows. So l need to trace where the wiring goes to that fuse....... Thanks Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful. |
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12th Apr 2020 7:05am |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
And just so you can find think from drawing
https://1drv.ms/b/s!AtZSoWFHDgnGjECIf_wOfqrjegKe?e=kEfY0P |
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12th Apr 2020 7:48am |
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| thompo Member Since: 26 Sep 2016 Location: stoke-on-trent Posts: 2 
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Hi everyone i had problems with central locking on my puma ;i replaced my radio and sorted central locking out broken wire in door pillow behind passenger seat i had dissconected the battery,but tried everything it would not start i called a man that can it took him five minutes .He took the key fob away from the vehicle removed the battery from it pressed the buttons on the fob a few times replaced the battery pointed it at the car locked and unlocked it jumped in and it started.i hope you find this of help.
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16th Apr 2020 8:12pm |
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| Finchy13 Member Since: 07 Apr 2019 Location: North East Posts: 20 
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I had a similar problem when the battery died on my puma. Tried to start it after charging the battery but it wouldn't crank or lock/unlock from the fob. Had a blown fuse, can't remember which, replaced it and still no joy. Had to get a bloke out to reprogram the 10AS unit as its all too common for it to loose its coding...
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16th Apr 2020 8:55pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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Finchy - I had the same problem. Problem was I was in a psychiatric hospital car park and everything I tried set the alarm off. Eventually, I was politely asked to have it towed
  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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17th Apr 2020 5:27am |
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