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| Genis Member Since: 25 Jan 2009 Location: Windhoek Posts: 17   
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I were on a uphill cross-axle this afternoon and the 90 started spinning the wheels without traction. I thought the traction control would kick in pull me forward, but nothing much happened. I then switched off the car, got out, walked around and then got back in and tried again. I could then hear and feel the traction control working and the car easily climbed up through the axle twister. Is it usually that inconsistent?
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8th Mar 2009 5:53pm |
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| discocuzzy Member Since: 16 Jul 2008 Location: surrey Posts: 1200 
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Go off road much MSE? You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things
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8th Mar 2009 7:58pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5034  
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A fair bit actually - have taught a few people to. Why do you ask? Do you get out much? Mike |
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8th Mar 2009 8:01pm |
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| discocuzzy Member Since: 16 Jul 2008 Location: surrey Posts: 1200
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Just wondered mike....that defender looks far to shiny
Yep get out a fair bit but prefer the touring/overland thing rather than wrecking the truck on pointless scratchy lanes etc. Im looking at getting a bit of a social scene going on the site and want to get a regular bunch together for offroad trips You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things |
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8th Mar 2009 8:45pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5034
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The new defender does a lot less than the others (too new and shiney to scratch) it goes off the track into friends farms and similar - but its not exactly pushed!
Ive gone off green laning alot - ive done too much damage with branches to perfectly nice cars thanks to trees, nearly wrote the disco off at 18months 2yrs old on a tree being winched when its AT's lost all grip in a private forest. Some examples: 
good old v8 - gone probably 7 months ago, used to change between truck cab and hardtop
Disco gets hammered for work, but then i get to go down wonderful tracks for work And our freelander
Limited a little whilst ive been ill but hey Mike |
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8th Mar 2009 9:41pm |
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| discocuzzy Member Since: 16 Jul 2008 Location: surrey Posts: 1200
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Lovely scenery mike
...what part of the country is that sir? You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things |
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8th Mar 2009 10:16pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5034
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top to bottom:
- Toms Farm (Mid Wales) - Lane name escapes, but its gwynedd area - not to many miles from the wayfarer - Redditch way - building an off road course Mike |
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8th Mar 2009 10:32pm |
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| alantd Member Since: 14 Dec 2008 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 1513 
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Have a search on "traction control" or "TC" and you'll find some relevant info.
Basically it works on the difference in rotational speed so (contrary to past practice) you need to give it some welly when you get stuck so that it spins up and then kicks in. It's not quite as sensitive as some of the more sophisticated systems out there. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS + New Defender 110 First Edition |
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9th Mar 2009 10:34am |
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| Genis Member Since: 25 Jan 2009 Location: Windhoek Posts: 17
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Well, found out it is pretty effective. a Guy with a heavily moddified Land Cruiser went up a severe cross-axle for demonstration purposes. I tried after him and drove up nearly exactly the same line. The left front wheel was about a metre off the ground! Achieved the same, but with a bit more wheelspin than the Cruiser.
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29th Mar 2009 1:46pm |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 419 
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Continuing on this line of thought, why does LR not sell Defenders with locks front and back? In almost every way, it's the ultimate offroader, but that one thing would seem to limit it, to me at least. Apparently even a Disco has a locker at the back.
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29th Mar 2009 3:27pm |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015  
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A Land Rover will go most if not all the places that a vehicle with front and rear lockers can, therefore why fit them as standard. There is nothing to stop you fitting them at a later date.
The original Range Rover Classic came out with a LSD on the rear, but soon dropped it as it didn't need it. No Land Rover has been produced from the factory with lockers (Except center lock). The Army's long range patrol vehicles have front and rear ARB lockers as they weigh over 4 ton and sand can be unforgiving- but they are very rarely used. Glyn |
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29th Mar 2009 4:16pm |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 419
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I don't know, it just seems like it is the only element which puts a question mark on the Defender's title as ultimate offroad vehicle, considering that the G-wagon and Rubicon Wrangler, plus some Japanese models do have them. Plus manual lockers would seem a bit more fitting for the Defender's philosophy of simple and mechanical, instead of TC.
And I think you're wrong about no model having them. I believe a rear locker is an option for the latest Disco. |
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29th Mar 2009 4:45pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5034
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Accept the Range Rover Sport, Disco 3 and i think the FFRR. I do agree do they need them? but also why not fit them Mike |
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29th Mar 2009 4:56pm |
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| markalpha Member Since: 23 Apr 2008 Location: Downham Market Posts: 690 
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TC is great if the sensors work and by the time you know they aren't working it could be too late. I like the good old diff lock(centre) without all the electronic gizmos. Does anyone know if there are any axle lockers which do not rely on electronics.
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29th Mar 2009 5:36pm |
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