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Fernando



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Mt82 de Puma a 300 TDI
Dear, is there a kit to adapt mt82 box to TDI engine?
Regards
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o4dn



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There's https://www.mdengineering.co.uk/shop/adapt...2-gearbox/ but it's not cheap! “A Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, […] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!” - Land Rover Driving Technique.
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Fernando



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Many thanks Thumbs Up
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o4dn



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It's just the adaptor though, depending on what you plan to do there might be more to it than just mating the gearbox to the engine.

I would also expect additional changes to be required in the mountings on the chassis, the bulkhead and the gearbox tunnel as well, as those also differ from a 300TDi, I reckon.

The gear stick and differ lever also differ on a Puma Defender. “A Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, […] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!” - Land Rover Driving Technique.
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o4dn



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However, from the page I linked:

Quote:
When this kit is fitted with the MT82 instead of the R380 in a 300 Tdi Defender the transfer box is 55mm further back than the 300Tdi installation. This puts the transfer box in the same position as the Tdci Defender. An optional mounting kit is available to mount the MT82 gearbox on the standard 300tdi gearbox chassis brackets


So maybe that's enough... I'd be curious to know how that'd go, keep us posted! “A Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, […] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!” - Land Rover Driving Technique.
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2009 2.4 Puma Defender 90 SW
1979 Land Rover Series 3 88"
Post #818148 4th Mar 2020 4:42pm
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Fernando



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Yes, I am evaluating the change only for the very slow first speed.
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DSC-off



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Hi, that kit will adapt the engine to the MT82 gearbox, but what is the arrangement to connect the gearbox to the transfer box?
The kit does not show any parts to do that, so I would assume you will also need the puma adapter housing and intermediate shaft.
If this is indeed the case, then use the upgraded Ashcroft shaft kit.

There are many threads on this forum about the failure of standard shaft between the puma gearbox and transfer box. Sometimes at very low miles.

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic62521...;start=120

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From the MD description,

"When this kit is fitted with the MT82 instead of the R380 in a 300 Tdi Defender the transfer box is 55mm further back than the 300Tdi installation. This puts the transfer box in the same position as the Tdci Defender. An optional mounting kit is available to mount the MT82 gearbox on the standard 300tdi gearbox chassis brackets"

So that will require Puma prop shafts too, due to the change of length.
It's starting to sound like you would need a complete puma transmission between the clutch and the axles.
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blackwolf



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I wonder what the gearing would be like with an MT82, original 1.4 ratio LT230, and a TDi engine. Low first would be exceptionally low, I'd think.
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jst



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And potentially unusable, similar to tdci hence idle jack Cheers

James
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130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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Fernando



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blackwolf wrote:
I wonder what the gearing would be like with an MT82, original 1.4 ratio LT230, and a TDi engine. Low first would be exceptionally low, I'd think.



That is exactly what I want!
The Defender is used for exploration on the mountain where there is no road and only large stone is found.

regards
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o4dn



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And 1st gear in low range is not sufficient for that? “A Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, […] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!” - Land Rover Driving Technique.
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2009 2.4 Puma Defender 90 SW
1979 Land Rover Series 3 88"
Post #818247 5th Mar 2020 8:47am
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o4dn



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Oh, I just realized your profile shows you have a Puma already, does it mean you want to keep all the transmission from the Puma and replace the engine with a 300TDi? “A Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, […] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!” - Land Rover Driving Technique.
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2009 2.4 Puma Defender 90 SW
1979 Land Rover Series 3 88"
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Fernando



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My adventure partner has the Defender 110 TDI year 1998 !!!

I, very happy with my Puma 2.4 with 300 thousand km!
Post #818252 5th Mar 2020 9:17am
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jst



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An underdrive? Same price as the adaptor plate. Struggle will be finding one. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #818271 5th Mar 2020 11:53am
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