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corgi1



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piston slap?
2009 90 csw, 89000 miles. driving on m3 engine started pulling back, straight to esso garage, no oil on dipstick put litre in all lovely shot to halfords, great service they put in another 2.5 litres. its running lovely as usual. but under load, up hill etc I getting knocking/clacking noise. nothing wrong still pulls like a train 70mph no probs, but don't know if the noise has always been there, and I haven't noticed, I expect abuse for running low on oil, but any other ideas please
thanks pete
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Grouse



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Sounds like big end bearings / crank shaft journals / bearings to me knocking under load 2017 Range Rover L405 Vogue SE V8 Diesel #16
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not a cheap sound to come from a engine alas specially if ran low on oil
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landy andy



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I understand that you were low on oil and there are other things top of your list, but just for your info, not long into Tdci ownership I was sure I had piston slap, or big ends gone. After a lot of worry and research I found out it was the VCV had failed, and required replacement.
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corgi1



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Landy Andy whats a VCV ???
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When you say pulling back did the oil light come on? the oil light indicates oil pressure, the tdci takes about 7 litres and is designed for 45 degree angles, I expect the oil could be quite low before the pick up point is out of the oil. DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

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landy andy



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Variable Control Valve.

It’s a very small and delicate little valve that is easily changed on the front of the Tdci engine that controls the amount of fuel.
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corgi1



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I didn't think of that NO the oil light didn't come on at any point so what does that mean
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corgi1



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a long shot but funnily rear demister stopped working at same time, this was all after garage fitted new front wiper stuff cos wipers wouldnt work properly, only saying this as odd things have things like fuses in common, although rear demister light still comes on on the dash - just a long shot but oil light deffo not come on at any time
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landy andy wrote:
Variable Control Valve.

It’s a very small and delicate little valve that is easily changed on the front of the Tdci engine that controls the amount of fuel.


Strictly it is "volume control valve", it regulates the flow of fuel from the LP stage of the fuel pump to the HP stage and by doing so effectively determines the fuel pressure in the common rail.

It is delicate, and a common cause of problems which usually do not produce DTCs due to a lack of monitoring. In fact a VCV fault is usually diagnosable by the absence of DTCs.
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mhmm due to oil consumption, check if the injectors are tight and/or Injectors copper seal are in good conditions (good diesel injection workshop) Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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