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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3641   
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Well I saw all 3 versions when I was invited to the customer perception thingy and I liked them a lot especially the 110.
Photos and reviews and I still like them but probably cant afford them Yesterday I was Morrison's in Solihull and a new SUV was parking up, I though I wonder what that is and then almost instantly realised it was a dirty new 110 in silver. possibly a factory car. The thing was I couldn't be bothered to look at it any further, mainly because it just didn't stand out as anything special, or perhaps its because I'm already bored with it, either way I generally do take an interest in new or unusual cars, but didn't with this one. DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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29th Dec 2019 7:00am |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481  
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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industr...noured-obe 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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29th Dec 2019 10:53am |
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| chalky Member Since: 09 May 2008 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 483 
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Amen to that...... When this forum was created and called Defender2 there were those that made reference to the fact that it was a defender and not a 2, similar to the D3 forum when the D3.5 came out or the D4 as some suggest, 
I’ve also had a D5 and again that attracted negativity from everyone who had no inclination to even buy one. I’m now driving a RRS SVR, which will no doubt upset most traditionalist defender drivers, I’ll be getting a new defender despite the fact everyone seems to hate them, as you I have served in the military and used them extensively for over 2 decades, and driven Many thousands of miles I also feel like busted concertina when exiting the medieval torture device which seems to be the yardstick which all other off road vehicles are measured by despite the fact a Suzuki Jimmy is equally as good. As for discovery and RRS, they are half a century ahead of the old defender. A new forum would be great, that way none of you have to listen to any one else with an opinion that differs from the defender lineage, DEFENDER XS CSW 08 TONGA GREEN |
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29th Dec 2019 11:37am |
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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 817 
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 Agree chalky, the Army did not afford you any creature comfort in terms of the company vehicle
Happy to have a modern LR product that can make it easier to cope with the extremes from below freezing to hot climates. As for the long drives and tours in Oz the RRS copes as easy as any Defender. No doubt I will be classified as a fanboy and / or sycophant as I have chosen a new Defender over a “icon”  yet another pommie bar steward down under
MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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29th Dec 2019 12:41pm |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481
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RRS SVR. Dirty dirty noise...
 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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29th Dec 2019 5:34pm |
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| chalky Member Since: 09 May 2008 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 483
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It is an addictive noise, especially on over run, pops bangs and crackles like a distant thunderstorm and goes like a scalded cat !
It’s a brutal thing, and shouldn’t ever be able to achieve the speed that it is capable of. As for the old company vehicle, 😂 They were gradually phased out in favour of other vehicles as their adaptability was beyond their intended use, as others on here have highlighted their extended applications on civvy street in their use as everything from a humble daily driver to a mountain rescue necessity, I can only apply my own experience to owning series 2’s, 3’s, a couple of lightweights “half tunny’s” Two 1 tunnys, and half a dozen defenders. A D3, 2 FFRR’s, a Disco Sport, a D5 and a FFRR. All of them are fantastic in their own right, the 50th V8, the 90 Tomb Raider, the D3 was a fantastic vehicle and totally reliable for over 7 years, this new defender will either work for my needs or it won’t, I just need to drive it and all it needs to do is be driven, I don’t want a transformer or a cherry picker or a converted ambulance, I don’t need a mobile forge or a mini fire engine, it just needs to be a useful family car, it’ll go to southern Spain thro France and be driven to the North of Scotland and also be driven to Cornwall every summer. I won’t be pretending I’m in the army driving thro muddy courses at Driffield and it won’t be used in the peaks As a vehicle that needs to extract walkers off a hill behind ladybower reservoir. I won’t be venturing down country lanes after weeks of rain to rescue damsels in distress who have driven their bmw at 40 thro a flooded lane in attempt to be first outside the school at 3:15. I’ll leave all that to those who have the only vehicle capable of achieving such heroic feats whilst scorning any one who dares to question the iconic defender and those who have stolen the name to apply to an aluminium bodied pretender are here purely for their own entertainment ! DEFENDER XS CSW 08 TONGA GREEN |
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29th Dec 2019 7:06pm |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 928  
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So basically any family car would do if they are your requirements?
Very few of us actually need a proper 4x4, myself included. This is, or was an enthusiasts website for original Land Rovers, I enjoy the simplicity, usefulness and character compared to all the plastic cars on the road today, I do not have some hero ego to prove, maybe some do? 
If you decide you want something else that is your decision and good luck with it. Last edited by Mike c on 29th Dec 2019 8:20pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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29th Dec 2019 7:32pm |
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| chalky Member Since: 09 May 2008 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 483
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As long as it fits my requirements yes, what family needs a mobile forge, snow plow and cherry pickers ? I know mine doesn’t.
It needs to do 70mph on the motorway and be able to carry my nearest and dearest, it usually takes 2 days to drive to Spain although I have done it in Defender ! Scotland, 3 mile down an un made Road off the main, Cornwall with a trailer and bikes, must also be big enough to use as my daily for work inc my kit, Although it’s not in boxes and it’s not stacked all the way up to the roof there is a fair bit of it so a fiesta won’t quite fit the bill, DEFENDER XS CSW 08 TONGA GREEN |
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29th Dec 2019 8:10pm |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283
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So just keep the argument going........
You are not going to change anyone's mind. Most of us are getting bored with it (the discussion and the vehicle). |
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29th Dec 2019 8:38pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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This forum was actually set up for the New Defender not as its turned out, a forum for the run out of the old model. Just look at the name of the site 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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29th Dec 2019 9:09pm |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 928
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Fair enough I therefore need to resign
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29th Dec 2019 9:17pm |
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| chalky Member Since: 09 May 2008 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 483
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And as the date got put back year on year I don’t think any one back then could have Foreseen that it would come over a decade later
I take it you’ve ordered a couple Andrew ? DEFENDER XS CSW 08 TONGA GREEN |
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29th Dec 2019 9:27pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707
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Just one for the moment, if they had launched the vehicle properly with all models and engines available I would have ordered more. Not happy about the price. 130's have feeling's as well you know
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30th Dec 2019 12:00pm |
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| chalky Member Since: 09 May 2008 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 483
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I’m not overjoyed by the price either, but then again the old ones especially the last few are fetching strong money, still torn between 110 and 90, I really want a 90 but I’m not sure I can wait that long...... fingers been itching since 2012 so I’m trying to hold out to see what issues the first few months reveal hoping that the first editions aren’t blighted by the usual sticky infotainment and reliability issues regards oil dilution as this crippled me work wise with the D5.
I take it your using the dealers in H ? DEFENDER XS CSW 08 TONGA GREEN |
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30th Dec 2019 12:59pm |
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