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Nidge



Member Since: 27 Jan 2008
Location: Kildare Ireland
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Ireland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Cairns Blue
"The new vehicle has nothing in common with the old but the name, which personally I deplore although I get that it makes commercial sense and was inevitable. The vehicle itself has however become just another expensive undistinguished SUV doomed in the main to be little more than a delivery system for schoolchildren of affluent parents, and as such my personal view is that it has no relevance here."[/quote]

Well said blackwolf Thumbs Up
Post #807590 25th Dec 2019 8:51pm
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Supacat



Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
AndrewS wrote:
A few have mentioned a new forum, there is a thread to discuss.

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic67384.html?highlight=forum


As frequently happens that seems to have run off on a tangent to the tangent. Maybe a new thread set up as a poll would be the way to go?
Post #807605 26th Dec 2019 6:28am
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lohr500



Member Since: 14 Sep 2014
Location: Skipton
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Good idea Supacat. I have set up a poll. Hopefully I have done it correctly and it works !!!
Post #807613 26th Dec 2019 9:48am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic70478.html

It's an interesting question you pose:

"Are you a fan of the new Defender?

but what what I was referring to - it was more about this:

AndrewS wrote:
As the vehicle reveal is coming soon. It would appear that a lot of people don't like the New Defender.
The question is: is there a place in this forum for the New Defender or should it have a stand alone forum?
Post #807615 26th Dec 2019 9:53am
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lohr500



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Ah. Understood. Embarassed

I'll leave the original poll running though as it will be interesting to see how the voting goes.
Post #807618 26th Dec 2019 10:01am
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milesr3



Member Since: 12 Feb 2013
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 873

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green
Just remembered this. Looks like a prequel to the new Defender and it seems obvious now why it was canned;

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/frankfurt...ate-roader
Post #807627 26th Dec 2019 10:50am
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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
Location: Whitsundays & Sydney
Posts: 813

Australia 
Look forward to getting the P400 in June, the vehicle is more suited to the distances
that people in Australia travel as part of their off road tours, such as Cape York, the
Kimberleys, which usually involve thousand of KM’s and weeks/months of travel, not
just a weekend away, less chance of needing a chiropractor at the end of each day,
or catching trench foot when having to do river crossings Laughing . A modern Landie will
Do and go anywhere an old Defender will, and leave you that bit more relaxed 😎

No doubt my post will attract the usual flak from the traditionalists yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #807726 27th Dec 2019 8:11am
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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
Location: Whitsundays & Sydney
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Australia 
Double post yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #807727 27th Dec 2019 8:11am
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Frontrunner's roof-rack for the new Defender: https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/u...-roof-rack


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... using T6 aluminum and 3CR12 stainless steel and is coated in black epoxy powder, one of the industry’s most durable and lasting finishes. The entire roof rack system weighs approximately 78 pounds.
With an aluminum tray, a stainless steel vehicle mounting system, and zero plastic, the static load rating of 740 pounds easily meets Land Rover’s recommended dynamic load rating of 370 pounds...
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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
Post #807752 27th Dec 2019 2:38pm
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Some big claims made for that rack:

"this rack can withstand the stress of any adventure, on-road or off-road, simultaneously saving fuel and lessening vehicle wear."

I'd love to know how?

https://expeditionportal.com/the-new-defen...nner-rack/
Post #807831 28th Dec 2019 7:42am
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familymad



Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
Wonder if Frontrunner is the new Mantec for LR. Seems odd they have been given access to the vehicles before press release and allowed to fabricate a line of goodies..... it can’t just be rendering those photos? 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
Post #807838 28th Dec 2019 9:12am
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2635

South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
Post #807865 28th Dec 2019 2:00pm
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Ecco



Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Kuala Lumpur
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Malaysia 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Galway Green
..incredible...new defender can drive on gravel roads..my mind is blown (sir David Attenborough)
Post #807866 28th Dec 2019 2:32pm
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RDR



Member Since: 27 Apr 2018
Location: Derbyshire
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United Kingdom 
Reading the front runner blurb is there some careful wording, it could be the existing rack/product they have simply made a mount kit for hence they can state it’s been tested for hundreds of thousands of miles. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
Post #807867 28th Dec 2019 2:37pm
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LR90XS2011



Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Well I saw all 3 versions when I was invited to the customer perception thingy and I liked them a lot especially the 110.

Photos and reviews and I still like them but probably cant afford them

Yesterday I was Morrison's in Solihull and a new SUV was parking up, I though I wonder what that is and then almost instantly realised it was a dirty new 110 in silver. possibly a factory car.

The thing was I couldn't be bothered to look at it any further, mainly because it just didn't stand out as anything special, or perhaps its because I'm already bored with it, either way I generally do take an interest in new or unusual cars. DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #807920 29th Dec 2019 7:00am
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