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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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Maybe not good news then considering "Reports from India say the engineering of the Omega-Arc (new platform) benefited from input from Tata Steel, which helped reduce costs without affecting vehicle safety."
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9th Dec 2019 11:35am |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7905 
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I don't know what the need is for so many models!
 James
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9th Dec 2019 12:36pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Niche marketing? JLR still looking for the volume that can't be generated by a 3 model lineup.
Also, if the 80 is going to be produced in Slovakia, it may help the contract if there are minimum volumes or contributions to overheads. |
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9th Dec 2019 2:19pm |
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| King Luis Member Since: 23 Oct 2019 Location: Toronto Posts: 42 
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with more models on the same platform/chassis, you can make more money. broaden the scope of who you want to sell the cars too. |
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9th Dec 2019 2:23pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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True ~ but the Defender 80 is going on a "new" unique platform. Not only that but it contradicts a key element of their previously disclosed strategy:  Click image to enlarge |
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9th Dec 2019 2:39pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3394 
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The compact SUV market is the big money maker at the moment. I believe Jeep are out selling LR thanks to their Renegade. A small affordable LR should’ve been out years ago. |
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9th Dec 2019 4:08pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1780  
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J77 - it was called the Freelander 1!
If they're going to do another, the size of the FL1 but bhp and build quality of FL2 I'll put my deposit down now. Keith |
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9th Dec 2019 8:44pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3394
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Fl2 was and still is the best car LR ever built.
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9th Dec 2019 10:00pm |
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| shaun.mobile Member Since: 12 Dec 2011 Location: England Posts: 156 
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Click image to enlarge Just had a quick read of the article and is it just me or does this look more in keeping than the new defender? |
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9th Dec 2019 11:44pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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According to the article this Land Rover (sorry not Defender) 80 sits well below the Freelander / Discovery Sport price point: "Today’s Discovery Sport is priced from £31,000 as, in real terms, was the Freelander 2 when it was released in 2006. With a mooted £25,000 entry price for the new car, it means Land Rover must engineer in significant cost savings." I missed it on 1st read, but the article all suggests that the base model will be front wheel drive only. Last edited by Supacat on 10th Dec 2019 7:01am. Edited 1 time in total |
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10th Dec 2019 6:05am |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1780
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We've been looking at Disco Sports across here in France & Germany / Italy - a huge majority are front wheel drive only and its in the small print!
On Autoscout24 you see one at a decent cost and then in the tech details its a 4x2, I suppose a vast amount of users wouldn't know / care anyway, IIRC there was someone on here who was taken around Eastnor in a 4x2 Evoque and it performed pretty well. I personally couldn't own a LR that wasn't 4x4, as Lilo would say 'its an abomination!' Keith |
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10th Dec 2019 6:45am |
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| G4UJS Member Since: 20 Jan 2019 Location: Shropshire Posts: 226 
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Land Rover and 2 wheel drive should never be in the same sentence!!!!
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10th Dec 2019 7:26am |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1316 
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@G4UJS : Agree completely. Especially the 4x2 Series I and II's that the factory produced. I think most went to the RAF for use on bases.
Here's a couple of photos of a nice 4x2 restoration I found on the net : Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge @J77 : I have to agree that FL2 was very well built. The one we had was extremely well screwed together and 100% reliable. However, it just didn't feel like a proper Land rover to me. It could have been any modern SUV. |
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10th Dec 2019 8:41am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Freely2 was often referred to as the baby RR as it was more FFRR scaled down than Evoque! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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10th Dec 2019 8:49am |
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