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Procta



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Rashers wrote:
I think you are partially right, Procta.

I think there are localised gangs and individuals who steal Defenders and these are small time criminals who will move on to anything they can make a bit of money on. But I also think there are specialist organised gangs who are more or less professional at their work. They are more than likely pinching Range Rovers and any other vehicle of value. As yours was burnt out Procta, yours sadly falls into the first category.

I have said this before, but I think we all need to look very carefully at where we are buying second hand bits from. I walked around the second hand parts section of the Peterborough Show this year. No doubt, a large proportion of what was there had been sourced responsibly (sounds a bit like my local fish and chip shop), but you have to question how much of what was laying on the floor had once been someones pride and joy, before it was stolen and ended up at the Showground.



Yeah your right, near to where I live is well known for parting out stolen cars, and who stole mine was very local to me too. But I think what saved the day for me, that I made it too hot, around the local face book areas. So they had to cut their losses. But may have come back for the axles. As for shows you are not wrong there at all, You get the ones that do the dirty work, then another bunch to the dismantling, then someone else to do the selling. Think of it as a shop or a production line. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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Zed



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Rashers wrote:
I think you are partially right, Procta.

I think there are localised gangs and individuals who steal Defenders and these are small time criminals who will move on to anything they can make a bit of money on. But I also think there are specialist organised gangs who are more or less professional at their work. They are more than likely pinching Range Rovers and any other vehicle of value. As yours was burnt out Procta, yours sadly falls into the first category.

I have said this before, but I think we all need to look very carefully at where we are buying second hand bits from. I walked around the second hand parts section of the Peterborough Show this year. No doubt, a large proportion of what was there had been sourced responsibly (sounds a bit like my local fish and chip shop), but you have to question how much of what was laying on the floor had once been someones pride and joy, before it was stolen and ended up at the Showground.


Absolutely.
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Huttopia



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I just had a rattle with the owner. He caught the person who 'may' have stolen it trying to rub out the sign writing. I say 'may' have as the police are just going to prosecute for receiving stolen goods as there is no proof he stole it, however he doesn't have a receipt or any paperwork / log book etc. Just a nonsense. The most bizarre (to my simple mind) part about it, is that the chap caught with it had a full set of keys for the doors, ignition and fuel cap, and yet none of the locks had been changed and the owner had the only two (original) sets with him. The vehicle was driven away when stolen, so now the owner is concerned the keys get passed on and someone else comes back for it. Oddly though nothing was taken from it, there was sheep medicine (niche I grant you), penknives, new car battery and other kit untouched.

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nicholas2012



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Good to hear he got it back in one piece and the police done a job, see so many posts of stolen vehicles that never return! Sad
I'm sure word will get about who was in possession of this whether he stole it or not is sure to be aware it was stolen!!
Strange one with with the keys hopefully the police follow up and maybe find out more about what's been going on
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Strange with keys. Are you suggesting the keys were copied, originals returned, then Defender stolen? I'd be wondering who had access, garage...? James
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Huttopia



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No, the original keys never went anywhere, I just don’t understand how a full set could be created without the originals.
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Procta



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Huttopia wrote:
I just had a rattle with the owner. He caught the person who 'may' have stolen it trying to rub out the sign writing. I say 'may' have as the police are just going to prosecute for receiving stolen goods as there is no proof he stole it, however he doesn't have a receipt or any paperwork / log book etc. Just a nonsense. The most bizarre (to my simple mind) part about it, is that the chap caught with it had a full set of keys for the doors, ignition and fuel cap, and yet none of the locks had been changed and the owner had the only two (original) sets with him. The vehicle was driven away when stolen, so now the owner is concerned the keys get passed on and someone else comes back for it. Oddly though nothing was taken from it, there was sheep medicine (niche I grant you), penknives, new car battery and other kit untouched.

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Sounds like that's had the keys duplicated or something like, and stolen to order. I would get those changed straight away if I were him re double security too. Also give the Censored who was rubbing the sign writing a bit of a working over too, just for touching it. What gets me is Were they planning on getting it out the country etc? I know some local faggot was selling stolen defenders with geniune IDs, so it makes wonder where the motors are for those IDs that are geniune. Shipped abroad i guess? Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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JOW240725



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I just wondered whether he'd left the Defender at a garage for a service, or a car wash, who had then copied the set before the owner returned? James
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Huttopia



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Yes, makes sense but it’s never been washed and he serviced it himself. A mystery.
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Just a point of note that certain vehicles have no difference between keys if you understand

Lots of plant & agricultural vehicles share the same key, we lost a set in concrete, and had another guy from another site roll up with another identical set.

Wouldn’t be surprised in poverty spec defenders are the same.

Maybe, just maybe they knocked the locks, installed new ones that were identical key patterns?

Worth having a look if the lock is new or not.

Otherwise would put it down to cloning. I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/
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nicholas2012



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Another thng could be if the barrel is worn maybe any similar sized key will work
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