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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6610   
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No it won't show as a fault code, it's a purely electrical on/off problem. You might get some spurious codes due to things shutting down when.
You don't need to change the whole barrel and keys, just the switch on the far end of the key barrel/column lock - part number LR039638 Can you let me know what you mean about the dash lights above?  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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22nd Oct 2019 10:01pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7906 
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Where abouts in Suffolk are you? I might be able suggest a few garages.
Any AS10/ECU electrical issues I'd speak with Dan Padmore at Pace Automotive, Peterborough. However, I noticed on FB that he's on holiday at the moment. James MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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23rd Oct 2019 10:40am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6610
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Are you getting NO dash lights (or just the battery light), or is the glow, oil pressure and MIL (and temp gauge) working ok?
Thinking about it again, remove the starter relay, turn the ignition on and bridge the starter relay power terminals with a thick wire. Pull the wire out quickly if it starts!! 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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23rd Oct 2019 11:28am |
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| Nick90pickup Member Since: 21 Oct 2019 Location: Suffolk Posts: 16
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Hi Guys,
I am Bury st Edmund's. The dash light are all normal and as you would expect when trying to start the engine. I have ordered the ignition switch from landrover which should be here tomorrow. Fingers crossed that does something productive |
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23rd Oct 2019 12:52pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7906
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I've not used them myself yet, but I've been recommended M C C Motor Engineering, Fish Farm Ind Est/Tut Hill, Bury Saint Edmunds IP28 6LE, Phone: 07760 241096.
Hope you get it sorted.  James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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23rd Oct 2019 1:18pm |
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| Nick90pickup Member Since: 21 Oct 2019 Location: Suffolk Posts: 16
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Thanks very much,
She has already been to MCC and they could not find any fault. Then it went to Mansfield and they could not get it to fault while plugged in. The auto electricians machine was not the right one for the job ( so he said after he invoiced) The lock smith found no fault and did have it fail to start on him. Then got it going and assumed it was fixed. No she is dead as a dead thing  |
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23rd Oct 2019 2:51pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6610
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Tried starting it my way? Key switched to ignition (dash alive) then bridge the starter relay to send power to the starter?
1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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23rd Oct 2019 2:56pm |
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| Nick90pickup Member Since: 21 Oct 2019 Location: Suffolk Posts: 16
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Not as yet,
So that trun the key and use a jump lead or something to the starter? I used to start old tractor with a screen driver across the starter motor. Not sure if that's similar wlto what you mean ? |
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23rd Oct 2019 4:12pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6610
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No I didn't mean straight to the starter but at the relay under the seat.
I was trying to see if the feed down to the relay from the starter switch was duff, but your new switch tomorrow should answer that anyway. Just a note when you come to change your switch. Make a note (or take a photo) of where the connectors go as they go individually. Easy to mix up. Pic below for reference: 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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23rd Oct 2019 4:22pm |
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| Nick90pickup Member Since: 21 Oct 2019 Location: Suffolk Posts: 16
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Thank you that's a great tip.
I have got an ebay special and if it works I shall get a real landy one. Hopefully it's an easy job |
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23rd Oct 2019 4:38pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6610
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Here's another idea.
 
Before you get into the hassle of removing the old switch, leave it in place and swap the wires onto the new switch and operate it using a screwdriver. 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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23rd Oct 2019 5:45pm |
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| Nick90pickup Member Since: 21 Oct 2019 Location: Suffolk Posts: 16
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That sounds interesting. Is that as basic as it sounds ?
There is not much room for my fat hands. I have already started getting anything I can off. Lastly, i dont suppose it matters but when it did start all those month ago when you went off roading the key used to fall out. Or as I found put you could just pull the key out while you were going alone. This would have no effect on the engine. I assume this is just a landy quirk and does not have an impact on it not starting now? Though perhaps the barrel might be worn ( I am clutching at starws i know ) Thanks |
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23rd Oct 2019 6:08pm |
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| Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1018 
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I am about as much use as a gorilla in boxing gloves in regards to electrical stuff, but if you need a tow locally I am based just outside Bury St Edmunds Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
Puma 90 XS - Sold D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold) Freelander 2 HSE - Sold Freelander 1 - Sold Disco 2 - Sold |
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23rd Oct 2019 8:51pm |
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| Nick90pickup Member Since: 21 Oct 2019 Location: Suffolk Posts: 16
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Thank you. That's very good of you. Hopefully today is the day she starts! If the part turns up
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24th Oct 2019 6:00am |
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