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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
The brochure is interesting, for example it seems to suggest that there is a coil spring option which I wasn't expecting.

Also it is interesting to note that the greatest payload in any of the 110 versions is only 900kg, which is a bit feeble, and unless the commercial versions yet to come go on a massive diet they will all be too heavy to fit into the Dual Purpose Vehicle category and therefore will be subject to reduced speed limits and lose the other benefits of being DPVs.

I wonder if this time LR will at least offer an integrated digital tachograph in the new commercials.
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
yes, but only the 90 will be available with coil springs. --
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2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
Post #792051 11th Sep 2019 8:45am
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
The Lego was also launched yesterday: https://www.facebook.com/LEGOTechnic/videos/515831112323283/
with AWD, a proper hi-low transfer case, IFS, working winch!!!

SWAMBO is thrilled, can't wait to order it! --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
Post #792059 11th Sep 2019 9:12am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
So Lego have beaten JLR to get a version to market you can actually buy with a working winch Laughing

What's the legal issue (assume it's that) why you can't have the jump seat in a 5+2 110?

Is the satin protective film clear or is it actually the same colour as the paint underneath?

Calling a lack of centre cubby box a "cabin walk-through" seems to be guilding the lilly a bit.

Seem to be a little confused on the roof rack:

"Expedition Roof Rack1 has a lightweight, fully integrated design, providing a dynamic load capacity of up to 132kg."*
"The dynamic roof load allows for up to 168kg"*.
*Defender 110 with off-road tyres.

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Post #792061 11th Sep 2019 9:15am
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pux146



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The 110 looks good, it's just a shame the average person has been priced out of buying it! 2007 2.4 90 fettled & remapped.
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Ads90



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green
Naks wrote:
yes, but only the 90 will be available with coil springs.

I'm guessing, but 'if' there is a commercial 110, it may have HD coils in place of air.
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
opt for coils and you cannot have Terrain Response 2 in rock crawl or wading mode? Surely those options alter more than ride height?
Post #792064 11th Sep 2019 9:45am
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Dutch G4



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prices in Holland:

from € 100.300 110
from € 119.700 first edition
from € 140.700 110x

I think we won't see a lot of new Defenders on the roads in NL ...... i don't mind personally, this is no Defender Crying or Very sad Duct tape is The Force; is has a light side, a dark side and it holds the universe together.
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Marks Landy



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United Kingdom 1985 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Java Black
Looking forwards to see Mr Khans mobile mess...

Rolling Eyes
Post #792067 11th Sep 2019 9:57am
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Grenadier



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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey
Just watched the 13min launch video on LR's Youtube website. To give a clear indication of just how far this car has pushed into the 21c as it 'reaches out' to its 21c liberal-urban audience, the terminology used by the narrator is straight out of some Shoreditch based snowflake/hipster/fashionista's grammar guide.

At no point does the narrator refer to 'THE Defender' only ever 'Defender'. Much like the current trend for uber-cool pre-natal classes refering to a soon-to-be-born sprog as just 'Baby'. Not THE baby, or YOUR baby, just Baby. Like it's its name; to personalise your connection to the yet-to-appear small human. And so, some snazzy-shirted marketing type has decided to do the same with the new Defender. Not THE Defender, not YOUR Defender, just 'Defender'. Defender does this, Defender can do that, you can programme this on Defender. As if it is a living, breathing, thinking animate object that you can have a pint with. Correction, have a craft beer or green-tea with.

Jesus wept, what is wrong with 21c UK?.... Shocked Big Cry Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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Post #792068 11th Sep 2019 10:09am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
blackwolf wrote:
Also it is interesting to note that the greatest payload in any of the 110 versions is only 900kg, which is a bit feeble, and unless the commercial versions yet to come go on a massive diet they will all be too heavy to fit into the Dual Purpose Vehicle category and therefore will be subject to reduced speed limits and lose the other benefits of being DPVs.


Is it a typo that the petrol variant 110s can only tow 3,000kg? It's 3,500kg for the 90 equivalents?
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Ads90



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Grenadier wrote:
Just watched the 13min launch video on LR's Youtube website.

You managed to get all the way through?
I joined the live stream late, and left after hearing about how the shear verticality of the design emphasises the shear verticality of the shear vertical rear... Rolling Eyes
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Grenadier



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Sorry, not the presentation, just the video. It's the complete video of all the snippets that were leaked. No, didin't get all the way through or close to it... Whistle Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey
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Ramsay



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Scotland 1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Auto Keswick Green
Here is my bit. For all they have shown videos and talked about capabilities they have not produced that much evidence to us of how it has performed in the real world.
They have an opportunity to do this and look rather special. Keswick Mountain Rescue team rolled a 110 last Saturday on the way to a call out. Vehicle is probably a write off but thanks to roll cage all occupants only had minor injuries.
Land Rover should lend them one of the new 110’s until their vehicle can be permanently repaired or replaced. It would do far more good in terms of marketing than all the medallion guff we saw from Frankfurt. 1995 Defender 110 CSW
1971 SIIA Lightweight
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Tim in Scotland



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Supacat wrote:
opt for coils and you cannot have Terrain Response 2 in rock crawl or wading mode? Surely those options alter more than ride height?

It’s the same with Disco3 and Disco5 as well as Evoque and DiscoSport - you loose TR functions if you don’t have air springs Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
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