Grenadier wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks this has a distinctly American front-end feel about it?


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LRinKY wrote:

So along with the too curvy front end, they missed on the roofline too. Others have mentioned this and looking at it I agree. Definitely would have looked better if they did the roof like that red colored rendering floating around. This would be an incredible new design if they had just made the front more squared off and rugged and kept the original roof line. It does look good from behind and side profile overall though.
I’m still interested and excited to see more, but I will probably be waiting on the new ford bronco line models out soon, and even the 4 runner redesign. The wait will also let me see how these new defenders are holding up. I’m not keen on ford, but I’d say the new 4 runner or even sequoia may be a more practical choice between it and a new defender. And I just heard they may be canceling LandCruiser sales in the USA.

Looking at the goodwood shots, im happy with the roof, the bond shot doesn't show much of the roof profile or rear, i think when people see it all, the will be pleasantly surprised

Supacat wrote:

blackrangie wrote:

Bluest wrote:

I remember the first time I saw an L322 RR and it was something different and quite something to behold. The Disco3 had the same shock value, although maybe it took people longer to warm to it. I was hoping for a similar reaction with the new Defender, but it is just a bit meh (as the kids say). Not bad, but not in anyway impressive. Hopefully it's ability and features will be enough to blow our socks off instead, which I guess is the more important thing.

very reasonable comment, its a blacked out bond car, im sure in the coming days we will see more and more defining features will be revealed.

Are you being paid by anyone to be so perversely optimistic?

Really?, as soon as someone actual vocalizes they like the new defender, they are paid, are you serious, using that logic those that post continual negative stuff are also paid, who by, the jeep lobby?

Also your comment is a personal attack, pretty sure the rules are against that. when you start attacking people instead of actually countering or discussing the facts you have already lost the discussion.

Back to the defender shall we, i thought this forum was above this kind of rubbish that goes on on others

LandRoverAnorak wrote:

Styling aside, I understand that it's actually on their new MLA chassis that has provision for hybrid and full electric drive trains.

blackwolf wrote:

blackrangie wrote:

blackwolf wrote:

blackrangie wrote:

... The previous defender was a terrible seller...

A little disingenuous, I feel, since as far as I know there was never a problem selling all the previous Defenders that could be made. The problem was the labour-intensive and hence costly and small volume manufacture.

From a commercial view it was inevitable that the new Defender would be aimed at the mass market, which in turn inevitably means most of the old one's endearing features become anachronisms.

At least there will be a good replacement for the Disco 2/3/4 (and the Skoda Yeti) at long last.

Put it this way, if they had 100000 orders per year they would have quadrupled the factory.

Slovakia has big production capability and LR can now produce 900000 vehicles annually

I would say not mass market but discerning capable 4x4 buyer

Yes, that in essence was my point. Landrover had no trouble selling every Defender that could be made, however it had no chance of making every Defender that could be sold. The problem was not that the last Defender was a "teriible seller" by any means, it was simply hopelessly anachronistic by modern manufacturing standards.

Ramsay wrote:

I think it is the only way designers have found for the vehicles to pass the pedestrian impact tests. See Jeep Wranglers very low score on this where it still uses its more traditional front.

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Swedishbloke wrote:

Looking at the Bond photo. I do not like the looks of the new "Defender" at all. Granted it is not as bad as some of the concept photos that we have seen over the years, but that does not mean much....

I saw this beauty earlier during summer. Now that is a propper vehicle if you ignore the alloy rims. Take notes LR.


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