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Co1



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
Dampers affecting insurance
Called LV today to inform them that id had the landy remapped, no problem an extra £20 a year. While I was at it I just double checked that the fact I am using bilstein dampers rather than OEM wasn’t a problem but it turns out it is! Another £15 a year! I explained that they do exactly the same job and the vehicle ride height isn’t changed, but they class it as a mod. Is this the norm? Something to bear in mind as they said it would have voided insurance if I’d have lost control and crashed.
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MartinK



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
Sounds severe, I would assumed it was a maintenance change rather than a modification... I have Koni and never thought to tell anyone! If it was lifted...yes, but standard height i did not consider a "mod"... Worth thinking about! Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
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JOW240725



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
I notify insurance of all changes to be on the safe side. A-Plan have been fine with everything, but there is normally a minimal admin charge just to note it on the policy. I suspect the £15 could possible be such an admin charge? James
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Post #787184 16th Aug 2019 3:34pm
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Should I notify what brand of brake pads and what make of tyres? I personally think things start to get very opaque with what is and isn't a mod the more you think about it. Personally, I wouldn't consider standard height shocks a modification, but would my insurer see it the same way if they were trying to decide whether to pay out on a claim? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #787188 16th Aug 2019 3:47pm
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Rashers



Member Since: 21 Jun 2015
Location: Norfolk
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
Years ago, I had the value of a claim reduced on a motorcycle accident because the rear tyre was partially worn.

Yes, they reduced the total loss value by the percentage of wear over the price of a new rear tyre.

I did ask whether they had taken into consideration the headlight would probably blow within the next year and the seat was probably worn from being new? Not sure they got the irony.

What hurt was the accident was caused by a car whose driver accepted complete blame. I suppose they made a few more quid? I never insured with them again as a matter of principle.

Quite a hard one about how far to go with notifications. I don't use genuine windscreen wipers?

I did ask my insurer about the Mud Panels I had put inside my utility wagon, but they were happy that it didn't need to be detailed. They also said my insurer would be happy if I fitted a wheel carrier as it was just a normal addition to a Defender. I was quite shocked Shocked

Best thing is to ask.
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discomog



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Seems a bit strange doesn't it Whistle My insurance company recently changed a windscreen for me and ironically it is not OEM. Should I notify them and get a £15 "admin fee" Rolling with laughter Defender 90XS SW
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Zed



Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
I wonder how my premium would be affected if I added a Browning 30-caliber?

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Sulisuli



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^ Rolling with laughter £15.00 admin fee should cover it Zed Rolling with laughter 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90
Post #787230 16th Aug 2019 6:27pm
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Sulisuli



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
Guess I need to ring LV tomorrow to tell them I have changed the speedo dial colour.......if the conversation doesn’t go well it will be goodbye LV Twisted Evil 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90
Post #787231 16th Aug 2019 6:29pm
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miker



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red
I guess I should tell them everytime I remove the dixon bate slider, as that technically means it doesn't have a towbar any more?
Post #787268 16th Aug 2019 8:21pm
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Rashers



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
One of my work colleagues fits winter tyres on his Audi. He rings up when he fits them, and rings again when they come off. They don't charge him, but they are adamant that they need to know. Can't tell you who he insures with, but he definately doesn't pay £15 a go.
Post #787273 16th Aug 2019 8:41pm
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Bluest



Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Most insurers aren’t fussed about winters along as they are the right ones for the car:

https://www.abi.org.uk/globalassets/files/...itment.pdf

It’s all a complete nonsense really. Any tyre that is not the exact same model as the original will have its wet\dry\hot\cold\snow\ice\gravel\mud\nurburgring performance balanced differently. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Rashers



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Couldn't agree more, Bluest.

It's just the balancing act of what they want to know and what they don't.
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ARC99



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
I rang the NFU when I changed the springs and ARB to the Alive one's and the standard shocks to Bilstein's. The only ting the stipulated was it had to be done by a garage and that they needed a copy of the paperwork. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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Sulisuli



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
Reading this thread made me rethink my insurance Shocked so

Due to the number of mods (some big and lots of small ones) I have done to my Defender I looked at my current defender insurance with LV who I have been with for along time and they have been great but as the defender is well past standard I felt I needed better cover going forward so called A Plan Insurance for a quote.

My current insurance still has 2 months to run with LV.

I spent an hour and ten minutes on the phone dealing with Stan and whilst a long call I have to say I’m impressed to say the least. Stan was extremely helpful, knowledgeable and explained very clearly and concisely (very important when your getting older like me )

Since that call I have sent them a full and comprehensive list of “ALL” ‘YES ALL’ mods to date, as well as the dates the mods were done and the costs including if they are supply only items or supply and fit and I have all the paperwork to support this and have sent photographs of the defender as well to just in case it’s ever needed. I just wanted to make sure I had crossed the Ts and dotted the Is, because talking with Stan I realised I wasn’t totally covered with LV as I thought I was.

Whilst a time consuming process putting all the above information together I feel it’s time very well spent and something I would suggest worthwhile doing because god forbid in the event of an accident I know I’m totally covered now. Whereas before I thought I was but I wouldn’t have been!!

All the new policy paperwork was with me by email within 30 minutes, I had to make 2 telephone calls back to them to clarify an email address and another general point but again the guys I dealt with were very efficient too.

Yes my premium has increased but in fairness we weren’t comparing like for like because I now have an agreed value as well as some extras on my new policy that I didn’t have before, I also have half the excess I had before.

Would I recommend them YES I would, I hope not to have to contact them again until renewal time next year but feel if I had to in the event of making a claim based on the service this morning it would be handled smoothly and effectively.

Guys if you do nothing else this weekend double check you have declared all your mods, don’t think oh I won’t bother to mention that it will be ok......... it may not be and if you have an accident and the insurance don’t pay out you won’t only lose your defender but perhaps more if your taken to court for damages by the other party.

Oh and if your interested my premium now for fully protected no claims, business use doing 18000 miles a year, £250 excess fully comprehensive cover for the wife and I to drive is £440.00 per year or £1.20 per day.

LV policy now cancelled and a refund received as well Thumbs Up
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2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90
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