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22900013A



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green
Tacho fitting
I had my 110 back in the Tacho centre today for them to sort the speedo, ended up its going to have to have all the speed sensors etc replaced. Anyway, they also informed me that new rules have come out meaning you must mount a tacho within view of the driver whilst seated facing forward - the usual solution in a Defender was in/on the cubby box, or centre tray, other option was passenger side of dashboard underneath the grab handle. All of these fitments are now illegal. So, where the heck am I supposed to have it relocated to? The tacho people are as confused as I am. They have contacted Landrover and they are not interested, local dealer in oxford also couldn't care less apparently, they think the "official" solution is to replace the stereo with the tacho, so, you then have to think where to mount the radio? Can it be mounted vertically?

Any suggestions or ideas most welcome. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
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mowcop



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My tacho was fitted upright on the front of the cubby box, I think it will stick out under the grab rail?
The radio can me mounted upright if need be.
I honestly would not be worried about its location, its been fitted and tested and sealed by a proper centre.
The fitting centre are the guys who fitted it and they did it to the spec at the time!
I am sure if you get pulled the fact you have a tacho to start with will take the "eyes" off your set up.
Just keep your company and driver card downloads up to date.
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They can't fit either at the front of the cubby box as it would foul the gearlever, they seem to think the cubby design has changed recently? I don't know as my most recent other Landrover is a 1969 model...

You may be right about the situation if pulled, but I think the Tacho centre (understandably) want to remove any possible liability on their part, in fact the way they were talking it sounds like the rule may in fact be retrospective. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
Post #78390 29th Jun 2011 7:32pm
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I put the speed limiter ON 3 brand new 110's last week that have just had Tachos fitted and they were all fitted under the grab handle.

Pete
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Fifth Horseman



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VOSA's view - last page has a reference pic.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/SN2.pdf
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I did wonder what the picture looked like. Note that there is no mention of from when this is supposed to apply, hence my installers conclusion that it could be considered retrospective. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
Post #78455 30th Jun 2011 7:27am
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The Solution for the Digi Tacho is as its a single din fitting get a Mobile store or the like cubby centre box and fit it where the CB normally goes Thumbs Up
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Fifth Horseman wrote:
VOSA's view - last page has a reference pic.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/SN2.pdf


Is this not what you mean?

If the tachograph is activated on or after the 1/10/12, it MUST be a third generation digital tachograph fitted to that vehicle.

There is no requirement to retrospectively apply this Regulation, thus, if a vehicle has been fitted with an original 1st generation tachograph already, it may continue to use one in the future.
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mowcop



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I had a metal lockable cubby with a sloping front and cup holders, the tacho was just clear of 2,4 and 6
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Fifth Horseman



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Fifth Horseman wrote:
VOSA's view - last page has a reference pic.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/SN2.pdf


Just to clarify that I'm referring to item 2 on the linked bulletin and the poster at the end of the document.

Would be interesting to see the reaction of the tacho installers whose work Pete has seen when presented with this..
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22900013A



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green
The techo generation is not really the question, they will just come on-stream on the due dates. The question is where the heck do you fit one in a Defender? Its a bit crap to be honest that Landrover didn't consider this when designing the puma dashboard, although in fairness the same problem applies with most Japanese 4x4s too. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
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